Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

[fireproof78]

Personally I haven't been able to care about for years, unless they're put into some extreme peril. As long as the movie or TV ep. is entertaining is really all taht matters to me. So many factors affect my view of a movie, namely how tired I am, i used to see some movie right after work and was really too tired to care about the characters most of the time. I'm sure TFA will be entertaining, but I would like to see another trailer with more of the movie in it, it's just hard for me to get worked up over TFA yet.

Fair point. I don't care about TFA characters (yet) so much as I am excited to see this new part of the Star Wars universe and (potential) new worlds, and things that I have not seen before.

My enjoyment of the film will, of course, be predicated on how the characters are presented. Characters make or break a film for me.

As to the prequels, I love talking about it, both good and bad points. I'll probably talk about it until long after the films are forgotten. It is simply something that I enjoy doing. Call it bashing, criticizing, nitpicking, or whathave you, but it is something that I have done since high school, and that hasn't changed too much since then.

 

[JD]

Michael B. Jordan is being rumoured for the part of Boba Fett is his own standalone film.

I'm not sure I'm buying it - Disney has been VERY astute and political in distancing themselves from the universally maligned PT, WHY would they take on an actor that has such a poisonous status with the very fan community these films are at?

This sounds incredibly unlikely to me. If he's going to spend his the whole movie with the helmet on ala Dredd with Temura Morrison or Dee Bradley Baker (the TCW and Rebels voice actor), then it seems weird to cast a big name actor. If he is going to take the helmet off, I don't really see how he could age from Daniel Logan to MBJ to Temura Morrison. I wouldn't really have a problem with it if they were going to ignore the Prequels, but it's been made pretty clear that even if they aren't going to directly reference them in the new movies, the Prequels are canon.

 

[Mach5]

Rogue One will certainly be a different movie without his musical score.

Hopefully. I want Rogue One to stand on its own as much as possible.

I wouldn't really have a problem with it if they were going to ignore the Prequels, but it's been made pretty clear that even if they aren't going to directly reference them in the new movies, the Prequels are canon.

"Rebels" have acknowledged the prequels a bunch of times by now. Disney obviously never instructed Filoni against it.

 

[fireproof78]

Michael B. Jordan is being rumoured for the part of Boba Fett is his own standalone film.

I'm not sure I'm buying it - Disney has been VERY astute and political in distancing themselves from the universally maligned PT, WHY would they take on an actor that has such a poisonous status with the very fan community these films are at?

This sounds incredibly unlikely to me. If he's going to spend his the whole movie with the helmet on ala Dredd with Temura Morrison or Dee Bradley Baker (the TCW and Rebels voice actor), then it seems weird to cast a big name actor. If he is going to take the helmet off, I don't really see how he could age from Daniel Logan to MBJ to Temura Morrison. I wouldn't really have a problem with it if they were going to ignore the Prequels, but it's been made pretty clear that even if they aren't going to directly reference them in the new movies, the Prequels are canon.

I never knew that was in question. While I would prefer the PT not be canon, I also have no difficulty acknowledging accepting it as part of the story.

As much as I have heard complaints regarding the PT and how it turned out, there was rarely a question of the canonical status of those films. It was more a frustration at the wasted opportunity that the PT presented.

 

[davejames]

I'd be ok if they established that Jordan's character took on the mantle of Boba Fett after killing the original guy (since I never cared for the character's overly melodramatic origin in the prequels anyway), and that it was Jordan that we saw throughout the OT instead of the bratty little kid.

Although that would probably be too much of a middle finger to Lucas and what he established in the prequels, so I don't see that happening.

 

[DWF]

I'd be ok if they established that Jordan's character took on the mantle of Boba Fett after killing the original guy (since I never cared for the character's overly melodramatic origin in the prequels anyway), and that it was Jordan that we saw throughout the OT instead of the bratty little kid.

Although that would probably be too much of a middle finger to Lucas and what he established in the prequels, so I don't see that happening.

How was Boba Fett's origin overly melodramatic? Are you talking about his birth or his putting up where his "faher" left off?

 

[davejames]

Just the fact that he's now a clone who's closely tied to the defining event of the prequel-era who watched as his father was killed by the Jedi and then becomes this angry kid with a grudge who decides to become a bounty hunter etc etc...

It's all just a bit too much for my taste, and removes nearly all of the mystery that made the character so interesting in the first place.

 

[fireproof78]

Just the fact that he's now a clone who's closely tied to the defining event of the prequel-era who watched as his father was killed by the Jedi and then becomes this angry kid with a grudge who decides to become a bounty hunter etc etc...

It's all just a bit too much for my taste, and removes nearly all of the mystery that made the character so interesting in the first place.

Indeed. I like Morrison well enough and the character of Jango was interesting and well done, but it I didn't like the way Boba was handled in the PT.

Not sure about a stand alone movie, but if they can make Deadpool...

 

[Nerys Myk]

I stuck around until they killed off Mara Jade in the lamest way they could have. I'm glad the EU is no longer canon.

Jetpack misfire into a Sarlacc pit?

 

[cooleddie74]

I don't know, for all of AOTC's flaws I kind of liked the idea that Boba was very close to and loved his father and was so wounded by seeing him decapitated and killed by a Jedi that he wanted to get revenge on those he viewed as enemies by taking up the mantle of his father and becoming a bounty hunter in his place.

Overly melodramatic? In a galaxy where that upbringing would be one of the milder ways to achieve lasting fame and a legacy? I think it gives Boba Fett more of an interesting background to be honest. Brooding badass with an almost completely mysterious background is fine, but brooding badass with little known about him other than he watched his dad's head being cut off in the middle of a bloody battle and wanted to seek his own form of revenge is even better.

 

[RoJoHen]

I don't think it's Boba's motivations that are the issue. It's more the "small universe syndrome" that Boba -- random bounty hunter from the OT who, for all intents and purposes, didn't need a backstory -- is actually directly connected to the major events that caused the Clone Wars in the first place.

 

[DWF]

For a character intoduced in a cartoon in the (im)famous Holiday Special he's now getting his own movie, I'd say he's getting a backstory whether we like it or not. And I can't say it'll be easy to root for him to win in the movie.

 

[cooleddie74]

These days almost every Star Wars character, no matter how peripheral and seen in the distant background for just a couple of seconds, gets a backstory. Ice Cream Maker Guy from Cloud City probably has more of a bio than some Star Trek characters that were on weekly TV series that ran seven seasons.

 

[Nightowl1701]

For a character introduced in a cartoon in the (in)famous Holiday Special he's now getting his own movie, I'd say he's getting a backstory whether we like it or not. And I can't say it'll be easy to root for him to win in the movie.

Depends on whether Mace Windu somehow survived losing an arm, a lightning bath and the granddaddy of all skydives. I'd be willing to suspend disbelief a bit in that regard to get a Fett/Windu 'rematch' and give Boba the revenge he was denied as a kid.

Hey, if Darth Maul could come back from getting cut in half...

 

[fireproof78]

For a character intoduced in a cartoon in the (im)famous Holiday Special he's now getting his own movie, I'd say he's getting a backstory whether we like it or not. And I can't say it'll be easy to root for him to win in the movie.

I agree with this point. Boba Fett is an interesting character, in a bad guy sort of way. I even enjoyed a "Tales of the Bounty Hunters" short story about him. However, that was mostly from a tactical standpoint as he took down an Imperial Garrison.

But, a film all by itself? Eh, I don't see me wanting him to win.

 

[cooleddie74]

It'd be like rooting for Michael Corleone in one of the Godfather films. He's not really a good guy, but compared to most of the other characters in the story he might as well be the hero.

You'd root for Boba Fett not because he's the hero in shining armor riding in to save the day, but because there'd be a pretty good chance that anybody he'd be locked in combat with would be a much worse character from a moral and ethical standpoint. He's the default "good guy."

 

[Mach5]

It'd be like rooting for Michael Corleone in one of the Godfather films. He's not really a good guy, but compared to most of the other characters in the story he might as well be the hero.

I rooted for him in Godfather part 1, but part 2 Michael had very few redeeming qualities.

 

[fireproof78]

It'd be like rooting for Michael Corleone in one of the Godfather films. He's not really a good guy, but compared to most of the other characters in the story he might as well be the hero.

You'd root for Boba Fett not because he's the hero in shining armor riding in to save the day, but because there'd be a pretty good chance that anybody he'd be locked in combat with would be a much worse character from a moral and ethical standpoint. He's the default "good guy."

Kind of like Chronicles of Riddick.

 

[BigJake]

It'd be like rooting for Michael Corleone in one of the Godfather films. He's not really a good guy, but compared to most of the other characters in the story he might as well be the hero.

You'd root for Boba Fett not because he's the hero in shining armor riding in to save the day, but because there'd be a pretty good chance that anybody he'd be locked in combat with would be a much worse character from a moral and ethical standpoint. He's the default "good guy."

Kind of like Chronicles of Riddick.

Ouch, baby. Very ouch.

(I believe the term we're looking for here when your protagonist is villainous or amoral is "anti-hero.")

 

[Corran Horn]

TFA Disney Infinity figures announced

No surprises - the actors will be doing the voices, which is nice.

I would have liked to have seen a Phasma, but it's not over yet.