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Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Adywan added his own digital effects and made other small, often subtle alterations to the three Original Trilogy films in recent years as his way of improving the color and picture quality and certain effects he feels could have been executed a little bit better. Here's his take on Yoda and Luke inside the hut on Dagobah:

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTUQJmgWUsQ[/yt]
 
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Has he actually completed TESB yet? I saw his work with ANH years ago and was extremely impressed, but it feels like it's been ages since then.
 
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I don't know, but after seeing a lot of his videos on YouTube I think most of the OT Special Edition, DVD and Blu ray changes should have been made by him instead of by George.
 
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I agree! He's good.

But I think my overall point is that Star Wars didn't follow trends.. it made it's own.. it dared to be what it is.. and I hope the new films realize that this franchise is an entitiy in and of itself.. just like romantic music can actually elicit a different emotion in a darker ending, an emotion more consistent with Star Wars itself than with whatever is popular in other films
 
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It is still amazing sometimes to think that Yoda comes off so real that you forget he is basically a high tech muppet.
 
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Yeah, it speaks volumes that a latex, metal and cloth puppet designed, built and used between 1979 and 1982 exhibited more believable emotions and had a warmer, more organic personality than almost all of the CGI characters introduced and used during the Prequel Trilogy. Even the CGI Yoda at his best wasn't as good.

He could do more and be a far more action-oriented and physical character when generated by computers, but he still lacked that important spark of whimsy that the older puppet achieved with far less technology almost a quarter-century earlier.
 
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Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Yeah, it speaks volumes that a latex, metal and cloth puppet designed, built and used between 1979 and 1982 exhibited more believable emotions and had a warmer, more organic personality than almost all of the CGI characters introduced and used during the Prequel Trilogy. Even the CGI Yoda at his best wasn't as good.

He could do more and be a far more action-oriented and physical character when generated by computers, but he still lacked that important spark of whimsy that the older puppet achieved with far less technology almost a quarter-century earlier.

Yeah I think a lot of the charm of the ESB/ROTJ Yoda is the fact they did get such a great and believable performance out of a puppet. That makes the trick somehow even more magical to watch, I think, than if it's just a CG recreation doing all those same things.

Obviously it still takes a tremendous amount of skill and artistry to create a CG creature and make it look like it really exists in that world, but for whatever reason the magic and wonder just never comes through the screen quite as strongly at the end.
 
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The CG Yoda seems fine to me. The puppet in The Phantom Menace was slightly odd compared to the earlier one. Might have been the lighting.

However I do recall in the theater when Yoda walks in on Dooku near the end of Attack of the Clones. There was a slight bit of giggling in the audiance. The "oh sure the tiny muppet guy is going to do something", but the giggles shifted to "Woah, dude!" as soon as that lightsaber came out. The little Force duel before that got a mix of reactions depending on how people took Yoda's martial arts stance. But the pull of the robe back, gunslinger style followed by a Force pull of the saber to Yoda's hand ended most of the reactions other than "woah, Yoda's going fight".
 
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Speaking of a scene involving the CGI Yoda (and one that should have been left in the completed film):

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXrDWzwnsQM[/yt]
 
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I wonder if this set of stories will attempt to be more about the characters and the story than about showing us new places and weirder upon weirder creatures. The prequel trilogy and the early part of Clone Wars tried to show new and different more often than just telling to story. As Clone Wars settled it started going more for the story than the fantastic, and Rebels seems to be focused on the story and going for the older feel of Star Wars that hasn't been seen much of in quite some time.
 
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It's hard to tell from a mere 88 minute trailer whether or not JJ Abrams gets Star Wars, but there's plenty of CGI in it rather than the characters. In the past the trailers showed the characters in danger and how much of an homage to the old serials the older movies were.
 
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I believe it's a combination of CGI and practial effects.. a good director in the modern age would take something from both.

This isn't even a teaser trailer.. it's an announcement trailer.. just to let people who don't follow the latest movie news that there is a movie, and this trailer is all about getting back to the look and feel of Star Wars. Notice how the X-Wings have a weight and heft to them that the ships in the prequels seemed to lack
 
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The only shot that looks a bit too CG to me is the Falcon one (although I still give it a pass because it's so freakin awesome).

The soccer ball droid looks like an actual physical prop to me (perhaps puppeted from above and that part later digitally erased), and the X-wings look like they could very well be models too (with only the background and water spray clearly CG'd in).

Which isn't to say those shots couldn't still be entirely CG; I'm just saying JJ did a really good job not making them look that way.
 
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On his show "Stephen Colbert" decided to take on in his words "Scruffy Nerve Haters" who dislike the trailer :lol: it was goooooood
 
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