Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

[cooleddie74]

Temuera Morrison is voicing Boba Fett in Star Wars Battlefront

More Prequel affirmation by Disney. I fully expect the die-hard prequel-bashers to not be hypocrites and boycott the game.

I'm perfectly cool with Temuera doing the voice. After all, Boba is Jango Fett's unaltered clone and even though it doesn't make a whole lot of sense from a real world point of view Boba now has his father's same speaking voice in the Original Trilogy. It's in-universe continuity, however controversial to some fans.

Now, if "Jedi Rocks" is included as part of the soundtrack on the game? The streets will flow with the blood of all those who tolerate such crimes against decency.

 

[Mach5]

my wonderful SNES in 1992!!!!

I owned one too. Super Mario World was my favorite game. I played it on my PC in a SNES emulator many times as well.

 

[fireproof78]

Temuera Morrison is voicing Boba Fett in Star Wars Battlefront

More Prequel affirmation by Disney. I fully expect the die-hard prequel-bashers to not be hypocrites and boycott the game.

Done

Though, I don't consider myself a prequel basher, so much as a prequel skeptic, more disappointed with the final product than angry.

Probably how Battlefront will end up being.

Also, Temuera already did voice work for 5 games, so doesn't feel as much news.

 

[cooleddie74]

There are many things to nitpick about the Prequels and the changes George made to the OT to more closely tie all the movies together, but Temuera Morrison's voice now being that of Boba Fett and some of the Stormtroopers is one of those fights I wish some fanboys would just give up on.

You know Boba is Jango's clone and that some of the OT Stormtroopers were also derived from his clone template. You don't have to like it, just don't go ballistic every time you hear the newly-looped dialogue from the more recent edits of ANH and ESB. There are much bigger space slugs to fry.

 

[fireproof78]

Eh, it's symptomatic of the larger problem, that the OT had to be gone back over and "fixed." New dialog just feels out of place to me.

 

[kirk55555]

There are many things to nitpick about the Prequels and the changes George made to the OT to more closely tie all the movies together, but Temuera Morrison's voice now being that of Boba Fett and some of the Stormtroopers is one of those fights I wish some fanboys would just give up on.

You know Boba is Jango's clone and that some of the OT Stormtroopers were also derived from his clone template. You don't have to like it, just don't go ballistic every time you hear the newly-looped dialogue from the more recent edits of ANH and ESB. There are much bigger space slugs to fry.

I've always been perfectly fine with him being the voice of Boba and the clones. Boba Fett being an unaltered clone of jango never bothered me, and it retroactively showed us what Boba really looked like under his armor in the OT. That said, was Morrison's voice actually dubbed into stormtroopers in some of Lucas's OT reedits? That's really weird. Actually, I didn't know they had redubbed any voices in the later OT edits, since the Special edition is the version of the OT I own.

I kind of assumed (like the old EU mentioned) that Stormtroopers were mostly recruits in the OT, not more clones. I mean, it doesn't really bother me if Jango clones were still being made by the OT I guess, but I always assumed the clones eventually got scarce or were gone from imperial service completely by the time of the OT. I've been planning to get the Star Wars OT Blu Ray/DVD combo pack, and since I haven't seen any of the OT changes past the Special Edition VHS, its going to be like watching completely different films at this point

 

[Venardhi]

I'm fine with Boba being a clone. Whatever his origins though, he didn't have the same life as his father and it makes zero sense for him to have the same voice. Same with the Stormtroopers. Just another stupid change for the sake of change. It won't keep me away from a video game if the reviews are stellar enough, but I can still roll my eyes out of my skull as I please.

 

[BillJ]

I'm fine with Boba being a clone. Whatever his origins though, he didn't have the same life as his father and it makes zero sense for him to have the same voice. Same with the Stormtroopers. Just another stupid change for the sake of change. It won't keep me away from a video game if the reviews are stellar enough, but I can still roll my eyes out of my skull as I please.

I played the beta last night, very pretty, but very repetitive.

 

[JD]

I think GL has some great ideas and concepts and world building ideas, but works best with a team of creators to bring it to life. And I think that means being limited as well.

This sums up my feelings on Lucas pretty well. He's a great idea guy, but his execution of those ideas isn't always the greatest.

As for the EPVIII title, until it pops up on a more reliable site I'm calling BS.

The ideas are his and his alone any thought that the execution is wrong is Monday morning quartbacking at best. You can't alway leave your ideas in the hand of others. Joss Whedon is still complaining about how Alien Resurrection came out, Alan Moore famously hates movies based on his works and those are but two examples.

Wow, sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone one. I never meant to say that they weren't Lucas's ideas or that he had to hand them over to someone else. I actually like the Prequels overall, but I do agree they have a lot of issues, most of which come down to Lucas's writing and directing. I just think there are enough good things to counteract those issues.
And I don't think what I said was Monday morning Quaterbacking. I never said I could have done a better job, or even said that he shouldn't have been the one to write or direct the movies. But that doesn't mean that I can't think that he could have done a better job.

 

[BigJake]

The ideas are his and his alone any thought that the execution is wrong is Monday morning quartbacking at best.

What a bizarre thing to say. Frank Herbert's ideas were his and his alone, that doesn't mean all his novels were equally good. Why wouldn't the same be true of filmmakers? What's the point of getting all precious about it on Lucas' behalf?

 

[DWF]

The ideas are his and his alone any thought that the execution is wrong is Monday morning quartbacking at best.

What a bizarre thing to say. Frank Herbert's ideas were his and his alone, that doesn't mean all his novels were equally good. Why wouldn't the same be true of filmmakers? What's the point of getting all precious about it on Lucas' behalf?

Bizzare? So you know more about his vision or the vision of any creator than they do themselves? There's a difference between just complaining about something and a legitimate critism. aynway it's his vision and that's why a number of directors passed on the prequels.

 

[Tulin]

What a bizarre thing to say. Frank Herbert's ideas were his and his alone, that doesn't mean all his novels were equally good. Why wouldn't the same be true of filmmakers? What's the point of getting all precious about it on Lucas' behalf?

See my previous post.

It's like Lucas is some kind of innocent, disenfranchised, powerless child and people who defend him like that are the equivalent of the "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!111!!" crowd.


Hint: He doesn't need your assistance, he doesn't care about you. In fact, he thinks all rabid SW fans are kind of insane.

 

[BigJake]

Bizzare? So you know more about his vision or the vision of any creator than they do themselves?

I know what makes a good novel or film and what doesn't. Why would I need to know "more about his vision" to be able to make a call like that?

It's like Lucas is some kind of innocent, disenfranchised, powerless child and people who defend him like that are the equivalent of the "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!111!!" crowd.

Hint: He doesn't need your assistance, he doesn't care about you. In fact, he thinks all rabid SW fans are kind of insane.

Quite.

 

[DWF]

Bizzare? So you know more about his vision or the vision of any creator than they do themselves?

I know what makes a good novel or film and what doesn't. Why would I need to know "more about his vision" to be able to make a call like that?

You know what makes a book or movie good for you, that's merely a subjective opinion. And it's easy to bsh and complain, it's something entirely to be objectively critical.

 

[BigJake]

You know what makes a book or movie good for you, that's merely a subjective opinion.

To the extent to which that is in fact true (people kind of tend to kind of have misconceptions about how much work the word "subjective" can really do, but leaving that alone for the moment) why on Earth would I care in the least about how Lucas "knows his vision" in formulating that opinion? This is basically the equivalent of saying you can't criticize, say, an episode of Star Trek if you don't understand "Gene's vision." Why would you ever say that?

 

[DWF]

You know what makes a book or movie good for you, that's merely a subjective opinion.

To the extent to which that is in fact true (people kind of tend to kind of have misconceptions about how much work the work "subjective" can really do, but leaving that alone for the moment) why on Earth would I care in the least about how Lucas "knows his vision" in formulating that opinion? This is basically the equivalent of saying you can't criticize, say, an episode of Star Trek if you don't understand "Gene's vision." Why would you ever say that?

If you really read my comment correctly it was about people wanting somebody besides Lucas making his movies, not about fans understanding it, but still you have to understand the point of a stroy in order to be critical of it objectively. I said really nothing about understanding Lucas' vision to critical of it til now though.

 

[Tulin]

To the extent to which that is in fact true (people kind of tend to kind of have misconceptions about how much work the work "subjective" can really do, but leaving that alone for the moment) why on Earth would I care in the least about how Lucas "knows his vision" in formulating that opinion? This is basically the equivalent of saying you can't criticize, say, an episode of Star Trek if you don't understand "Gene's vision." Why would you ever say that?

There was a talk/panel show here in Australia in the late '90's, early '00's called "Beauty and The Beast". Hyper right wing older male host (Stan Zemanek - RIP) who would corral a panel of four outspoken women ranging from ultra looney left to raving right.

Stan used to have a saying,

"Never try to argue with a drunk or an idiot."

 

[DWF]

There was a talk/panel show here in Australia in the late '90's, early '00's called "Beauty and The Beast". Hyper right wing older male host (Stan Zemanek - RIP) who would corral a panel of four outspoken women ranging from ultra looney left to raving right.

Stan used to have a saying,

"Never try to argue with a drunk or an idiot."

Yeah well you pretty claimed I was an idiot for saying there was another version of the scene of Anakin's fall and you were proved wrong. So yo're attack on me is unwarranted.

 

[Tulin]

There's a reason I don't wrestle with pigs, either.

But I WILL add that anybody who starts a point with,

"Based on test audience reactions to [insert name of SW film] ....." and who DOES NOT know that Lucas has always LOATHED the idea of subjecting his movies to the whims of a test audience, is somebody whose next words have ZERO meaning to me.

SO Lucas played around in editing a bit (something he LOVES doing and, in fact, is on record as stating a film can be made in editing!) and changed the order of events in Anakin's turn. It's NOT a "different version".

 

[BigJake]

I said really nothing about understanding Lucas' vision to critical of it til now though.

That would seem wise.