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Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

Paramount kept trying to replicate the success of TNG and kept coming up short.

Largely becuase they kept try to replicate TNG period.

Hence why Voyager has been called "TNG Lite" by some. Each new series produced after 1987 has had some amazing episodes and storylines and characters I like and respect, but yeah, the basic formula even with DS9 was "let's try to recreate the success of TNG with new actors and characters."
 
The other thing about the Daleks is that pretty much anyone that hasn't done so yet, but loved Who growing up, has a Dalek story they want to tell. This is the writers and the directors. They were THE iconic Doctor Who villain race after all.
 
The other thing about the Daleks is that pretty much anyone that hasn't done so yet, but loved Who growing up, has a Dalek story they want to tell. This is the writers and the directors. They were THE iconic Doctor Who villain race after all.

They might have to keep the Nation estate happy too to avoid losing them completely.

But I enjoy most of the Dalek stories so I'm not really complaining.
 
I don't mind the Dalek stories, but they just aren't scary anymore. My first experience with the Daleks was in Eccleston's series, and his Doctor seemed truly terrified of them.

Now they're just like any old villain that pops up. I mean, the Dalek's murdered Tasha Lem and took over her body in "The Time of the Doctor," and the Doctor managed to bring her back just by insulting her for being a nun.

EDIT: I just realized we're in a Star Wars thread. What are we talking about? :p
 
It is all around us and binds us.

Or was that something else?


Basically we were talking about potentially being too much Star Wars in the next ten years. But given the large gaps in Star Wars, I'll take what I can get. Still not sure if they will actually try to make some live action series, since those have been on the back burner since before TCW started. Their cartoon series seem to do well, and with the potential of a film roughly every year for the next seven years seems fine to me. Where they decide to go after the third Trilogy is anyone's guess. Rogue One will be the new thing and we'll see how the Anthology films are received.

What we are waiting on is more news about The Force Awakens and Rogue One. As well as the start of Rebels season Two.
 
I think with the popularity of Daredevil, it most definitely expedited the process of bringing Star Wars to live action tv. I believe I also read as much, that they wanted to develop a property for Netflix due to the success of Daredevil.
 
This thread's for talking about Star Wars? Great. There go my plans to post links to the Axanar Kickstarter campaign.
 
^Definitely looking forward to that too. Already preordered for my Kindle. And I probably can wait for the graphic novel release on Shattered Empire.
 
“When you’re young and you see Jedi,” series writer Greg Rucka tells StarWars.com, “you can look at the happy ending and go, ‘Hey, it’s over!’ But you get older and you start to think about it, and you realize, no it’s not. It’s not over at all.”

em... no... sure you can say that if you are working in an era where they are making new films but no... its a fairy tale and the "happy ever after" ending is pretty clear.
 
Even the old EU had the Empire not fall from basically right after the Return of the Jedi came out. The old Marvel Comic and I think even the Kenner toy line were going into the idea of things that happened after Jedi with some Imperial agent called Blackhole, or something. There was the semi united Empire that fought on for a year or so until it fractured under the ambitions of various Moffs, Generals, and Admirals (and other officials). Then there were the various factions that the Republic fights over the next nearly 20 years before the war ends in a peace treaty. The Empire is still there, just very much smaller than it use to be. And it stays around even when the Republic falls again. The Empire endures. Changed a lot politically and culturally, but it is still there.

With the new films coming out, the old EU is wiped clean (maybe...the writers can now pick and choose if they want to keep stuff or reuse stuff to fill in the decades between films). However the ideas seem to remain the same (so far...the end result is still very unclear as to what the state of the Galaxy is in The Force Awakens). A Fractured Empire and a New Republic struggling to take the place of the Old Republic.
 
“When you’re young and you see Jedi,” series writer Greg Rucka tells StarWars.com, “you can look at the happy ending and go, ‘Hey, it’s over!’ But you get older and you start to think about it, and you realize, no it’s not. It’s not over at all.”

em... no... sure you can say that if you are working in an era where they are making new films but no... its a fairy tale and the "happy ever after" ending is pretty clear.

Well, kinda yeah really.

I mean, yes. It's a fairy tale, and it ended happy. That's it. But, when you begin to really think about, regimes don't actually fall because a leader dies. If it would, it's a pretty shitty regime to begin with. And with a huge military, an infrastructure big enough two build TWO Death Stars, and appereantly quite a lot of regional governours (that's what they were called, right), the concept that an Empire fell because they killed the Emperor? And yes, they took down the Death Star. So what? They did the same thing in A New Hope, and it didn't seem to hurt the Empire that much. They had enough resources to assemble a pretty decent fleet to attack Hoth.

Sure, it's easy to say that they were already building the second Death Star at the time, but Georgie hadn't thought of that yet, did he? And if he did, the point still stand.

So yeah, a Death Star gone, plus a Super Star Destroyer and some normal Star Destroyers. But I can't believe that was the whole of the Imperial Fleet. So, enough must have remained to still be a threat to the Rebellion.
 
I mean, yes. It's a fairy tale, and it ended happy. That's it. But, when you begin to really think about, regimes don't actually fall because a leader dies.

Of course not - but that's not what the films are - that is not to say you cannot do what they are doing (and of course have to do for the sequels) but its disingenuous to say that is somehow represented on screen in a nuanced way you pick up on as an adult because its not - not in anyway.
 
The perspective of the writer needs to be taken in account. Greg Rucka by his own accounts is very interested (or obsessed) with the minutia of the plot. The unanswered questions of the political developments in the Galaxy post-ROTJ would undoubtedly stick out to him like a sore thumb.
 
A look at Shattered Empire, the post-Jedi comic from Marvel.

I'm intrigued.

I'm more interested in the novel Aftermath.

http://www.starwars.com/news/chaos-throttles-the-capital-in-star-wars-aftermath-special-excerpt

Maybe it's because I'm more in to trade paperbacks/hardcovers lately. But I just can't justify spending that kind of money on a few minutes of reading. I'll wait till the series are complete and they release them in a collected works.
If Shattered Empire is focused on new characters, and Aftermath is focused on Wedge, does that mean we aren't getting a book or comic focused on The Big Three after RoTJ? I wonder if maybe they are saving that for after TFA is released.
 
I would love for there to be so much Star Wars that people get tired of it.

On the condition...

That quality is maintained and the theme/tone of anything produced honors the spirit of the franchise.

I don't want to see a Schwarzenegger movie with light sabres, for example.

Disney needs to treat Star Wars with the same attention paid to Pixar and Marvel and make sure that all offerings (even the lesser quality ones) do not reduce the quality of the whole.
 
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