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Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

Oh, in the collecting community it's encouraged and you're reminded of the dates constantly. :) There wasn't one for Rebels which was unusual for a new Star Wars film or television debut, but for everything else dating back to the premiere of the OT Special Editions in 1997 there's been a launch date for new toys and collectibles.
 
I'm thinking this Autumn is the likely date for Force Awakens stuff, apart from possible sneak preview things and the "Journey to" stuff.
 
I've been wondering about that, so that's helpful. I work in the Toys department at a Wal-Mart and we've been getting in our Age of Ultron stuff (I just unboxed a box of Hulkbester LEGO sets a couple days ago), and I was wondering when I should expect to start seeing TFA stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if we did start getting in more general SW stuff before that though.
 
It looks like both JJ and Edwards will be at Celebration this year.. and they will be having a panel.. no doubt lots of news and maybe a new trailer will come form this.

more on Star Wars, in case you need more geek tonight
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH4KElUqex8[/yt]
 
The second trailer reportedly will be on Avengers (May), although it would be nice if it's a bit earlier :)

I'm hoping the second trailer will give more hints to the plot and at least a bit of the OT characters who will be reappearing.
 
It probably will. According to early leaks, the classic OT characters will be shown (however briefly) in the second trailer and we might actually get to hear one of them speak dialogue for the first time in 32 years. I can't wait!
 
we might actually get to hear one of them speak dialogue for the first time in 32 years. I can't wait!
Mark and Carrie have both played their characters again in the 2000s on Robot Chicken. I know that's not what you meant, but... ;)
 
Around the time TPM came out, Mark also recorded a voice-over as Luke for an advertisement for Vector Prime, the first New Jedi Order novel.
 
Today's nerd rage:

One general Star Wars story point that I never liked and the one notion the prequel's introduced that never felt right at all, was the notion that Anakin became Darth Vader almost at the same time that the Galactic Empire was formed.

When I was a kid watching the original films. the Empire seemed massive to me, spanning across so much of the galaxy, that it must have been around for Generations.

Sure, Vader used to be a Jedi before he turned, and then he helped hunt down the Jedi Knights, but my feeling was that in the Old Republic thousands of years before, the Jedi's kept order and honor and peace. When the Empire took over, the Jedi were put down, but some remained, not enough to over-throw the empire - but certainly enough to conjure stories, and to potentially influence people to have faith in the Force. So any kind of Jedi Order was gone, but there were Knights that were possibly working behind the scenes, and those were the ones that Vader hunted down. Possibly the higher ranking people, like the Moff's, never saw the stories of the Knights to be all that credible.

I also always thought that Vader was 40 when he turned, and that his lifespan was increased because he was in a machine. My reason for this was the fact that he was a general and a fighter pilot, and that he would have amassed a great deal of experience on the field and behind the lines.

I never picture him turning while in his 20's/
 
It was just how I pictured it.. that the Jedi were still around, but to most they were just rumor. And I always felt that the Empire had been around for so long that people forgot what freedom was. The empire just seemed so big
 
Ok, that was a bit harsh, sorry. What I always found a bit strange was that it took the emperor 19 years from taking control over the republic/empire to dissolving the senate, kinda slow change for someone who rages about "ULTIMATE POWER!!!111". There might be an intersting Nu-EU story in there...
 
Today's nerd rage:

One general Star Wars story point that I never liked and the one notion the prequel's introduced that never felt right at all, was the notion that Anakin became Darth Vader almost at the same time that the Galactic Empire was formed.

When I was a kid watching the original films. the Empire seemed massive to me, spanning across so much of the galaxy, that it must have been around for Generations.

Sure, Vader used to be a Jedi before he turned, and then he helped hunt down the Jedi Knights, but my feeling was that in the Old Republic thousands of years before, the Jedi's kept order and honor and peace. When the Empire took over, the Jedi were put down, but some remained, not enough to over-throw the empire - but certainly enough to conjure stories, and to potentially influence people to have faith in the Force. So any kind of Jedi Order was gone, but there were Knights that were possibly working behind the scenes, and those were the ones that Vader hunted down. Possibly the higher ranking people, like the Moff's, never saw the stories of the Knights to be all that credible.

I also always thought that Vader was 40 when he turned, and that his lifespan was increased because he was in a machine. My reason for this was the fact that he was a general and a fighter pilot, and that he would have amassed a great deal of experience on the field and behind the lines.

I never picture him turning while in his 20's/

Vader was never a general, he outranked generals and admirals but he had no title other than lord. And really when Vader told Tarkin about feeling Obi-Wan's presence on the Death Star, Tarkin says that he must be dead and that their fire has gone out of the universe and Vader is all that remains of their religion. Yoda even tells Luke jsut before he dies that once he's gone Luke will be the last of the Jedi. And really we have no idea just how big the Empire is but we do know that Tattooine was outside of the old Republic.
 
^Anakin was a general though, although I'm not sure if that's ever mentioned in dialogue, but pretty much all Jedi were.

As for the Empire being a fairly recent development, the basic plot of Episodes I-III is found in the novel adaptation of the first movie, although it doesn't have much of an explanation of the Clone Wars and portrays Palpatine as more weak and basically controlled by the Moffs.

As for Lucas's own story notes, ROTS (and some of AOTC) implies the Sith controlled the galaxy before the Jedi fought them and the Republic was created after that a millenium before the movies.. (The EU had the Sith/Republic around much longer, but that's no longer canon).


Also regarding returning OT characters, Billy Dee Williams has done a lot of VA work as Lando, most recently in Rebels, but also stuff like the radio dramas and a few video games (Most notably the Jedi Outcast game) and of course Anthony Daniels is in practically everything as C-3PO.
 
Anakin's rank isn't mentioned in Ep. III though and I didn't get that impression from the novel of TPM. Luke was only 20 in the first movie so we know the fall of the Jedi wasn't too long before that. But I guess in a series that made Jar Jar Binks, Han Solo and Lando generals it's not hard to believe in Anakin as a 20 year old general.
 
Wasn't Anakin referred to as a Jedi General in many different episodes of The Clone Wars? Most of the Jedi leading Clones into combat during that period probably held the honorary rank of General.
 
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