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Star Wars Dark Empire comic trilogy

Whofan

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Remember this series? It came out roughly the same time as the Thrawn Trilogy, and was initially to stand on it's own, but the story was modified somewhat when Heir to The Empire became a huge success. It's not a somewhat dated story, as it sort of renders several of the victories in ROTJ kind of moot, as Luke breaks his "Never turn to the dark side" vow, and it turns out Vader didn't really kill Palpatine after all, his spirit survived and went into a clone body (Later, he even gets another clone body, which uses a lightsaber-the first time we see Palpatine do so in any licensed SW media). Also, Boba Fett survived the Sarlacc pit.

Dark Empire was followed by two sequels-one a miniseries the same length of the original but lacking the Dark Luke twist (but still featuring Palpatine and Fett) and then a very rushed epilogue called "Empire's End". The "Crimson Empire" series also sort of tied into DE, but was pretty much it's own series (It dealt with the Royal Guard in the wake of Palpatine's "final death").



Apart from the Boba Fett development and a few mentions here and there, DE is mainly ignored by other authors. Zahn sort of semi-retconned the Emperor's clone, suggesting it was in fact a sith imposter who simply used Palpatine's DNA and was not Palpatine himself. The biggest legacy of DE I think was Nar Shadda, the Hutt moon, which is kind of like a rotten version of Coruscant. Also, some of the characters encounter on Nar Shadaa would appear in A.C Crispin's Han Solo trilogy.
There are a few curious things about the series-one, that Palpatine uses his clones to extend his mortality, sort of cheating death-similar to what he claimed Plagueis's powers were in ROTS. Also in Dark Empire II, there's a curious mention that Boba Fett was an Imperial stormtrooper once. Given what we now know about Fett's background and his relationship to the Clones, it's a very curious note.

The art by Cam Kennedy was-and still is-very different from a lot of Star Wars stuff. It's kind of Frank Milleresque in some respects, and the color pallete is mostly in greens and blues, lending a darker feel to the story. It certainly stands out from both the Marvel series and Dark Horse's other Star Wars comics, which tend to use more realistic faces and colors (Although Dark Empire did have Dave Dorman as a cover artist, who did posteresque artwork for the covers).


Any thoughts on this series?
 
I loved the Dark Empire stories when I read them, except for the art work. It had this really gritty, dark visual aspect to it that I wasn't used to back then and didn't like. It still bugs me now. The story was pretty interesting.
 
Zahn sort of semi-retconned the Emperor's clone, suggesting it was in fact a sith imposter who simply used Palpatine's DNA and was not Palpatine himself.

I think it was just Mara's opinion that it "wasn't really him" or something along those lines. But she could be wrong.
 
DE is amazing, one of the best examples of Star Wars spin-off literature. Can anyone tell me where Timothy Zahn talks about the Palpatine clone being an imposter?
 
DE is still being referenced in modern EU. There were at least two references to it in Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor. Also, Dynasty of Evil involves the body-jumping power later used by Palpatine, tying it into the Legacy comics. Both of those books reveal DE's body-jumping to be the means of "cheating death" as alluded to in ROTS. There is also the fact that many things which first appeared in DE's endnotes ( such as Adegan crystals ) continue to appear in other EU all the time.
 
I love this series, and would love to have a hardcover compilation of the three stories, and as long as we're wishing for ponies, I'd also love to have an animated adaptation of them too.
 
I love Dark Empire I and II but the "Empire's End" is extremely rushed and anti-climatic with horrible art. I really loved the art on DE 1-2 it was so perfectly real with the ships and technology and actors' likenesses. Plus it's the ultimate story. Luke goes to the Dark Side! The Emperor returns! I always thought it was lame how Sidious died in ROTJ and this fixes that.
 
Apart from the Boba Fett development and a few mentions here and there, DE is mainly ignored by other authors. Zahn sort of semi-retconned the Emperor's clone, suggesting it was in fact a sith imposter who simply used Palpatine's DNA and was not Palpatine himself. The biggest legacy of DE I think was Nar Shadda, the Hutt moon, which is kind of like a rotten version of Coruscant. Also, some of the characters encounter on Nar Shadaa would appear in A.C Crispin's Han Solo trilogy.

DE is amazing, one of the best examples of Star Wars spin-off literature. Can anyone tell me where Timothy Zahn talks about the Palpatine clone being an imposter?

As Seth Harth said, it was just Mara's opinion and see said it during the Hand of Thrawn duology novel, Vision of the Future. No where is that opinion backed up as fact. Personally I think it is just Zahn having a swipe at DE because he personally doesn't like it. There is no retcon, the Emperor's spirit in the DE series is the Emperor from the movies.

As for it being ignored, it isn't more so than any other EU work. Just because you don't see "Reborn Emperor" in the text doesn't mean that the series is ignored, you don't have many novels that go one about Thrawn, Isard, Zsinj or even mention the Battle of Yavin but it doesn't mean the authors are ignoring their sources. It brought a number of things to the EU that continue to get used. You have the Deep Core as an Imperial staging ground, you could say that Imperial factionalism for the post-ROTJ era can be traced to DE, the character of Kam Solusar still appears, the two Imperial Star Destroyers destroyed in DE1 were a staple of NR fleets in subsequently written novels and comics set before DE, the MC90 cruisers were still appearing into the Legacy novels (might appear in the FOTJ if we ever see the GFFA fleet), E-Wings also continue to appear in the novels...

As for its biggest legacy, I wouldn't place Nar Shadda at the top. I'd put Boba Fett being alive as you mentioned above that given how much more Fett has given to the post ROTJ EU world. However, that isn't in my eyes the biggest legacy either. I'd say Anakin Solo is the biggest legacy due to his impact in the EU that even continues after his death.

Anyway, I enjoyed the DE series as a whole. It wasn't perfect but I think it captured a lot of the original film's spirit and feel. I know this will never happen but if they had to make a third trilogy and use something from the EU I think Dark Empire would be the best basis to do it from.
 
I haven't ready much SW comics, or novels... But I did like Dark Empire quite a bit. It felt big and epic, even though it had several questionable moment.
 
I kind of like to think of the first Dark Empire graphic novel as a companion series to the Thrawn trilogy which takes six months before it I believe.
 
I also recall George Lucas said that Dark Empire was the best post ROTJ story to recapture the feel of Star Wars (this was back in the 90s).
 
Why doesn't Zahn like DE?

To be honest, I never really got that into Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy, it just felt a bit dull somehow. The mad old Jedi Master and Mara Jade were OK, but the rest....meh. The Bantam novels Darksaber and Children of the Jedi were tolerable, but I thought A.C. Crispin's Corellian Trilogy was awful. Not all that long ago I read The Courtship of Princess Leia, and was quite surprised by how much I enjoyed it.
 
Well Zhan favors militaristic storytelling at the cost of Force Users, so he probably doensn't like the Force-centric focus of DE.
 
^This is an interesting view point. I don't know if I entirely agree on it. At that time in EU history there was just Luke and Leia so there wasn't much that Zhan could write concerning Jedi characters, except for C'Boath or however you spell it.
 
Didn't care for it then, still don't now. It's basically an ultimately pointless thematic retread of ROTJ.
 
I haven't read it for years but I remember loving the crap out of it. I really dug the artwork too. It was the best Star Wars comic I had read up to that point. I haven't read any since though as I was out of work so I stopped buying comics. By the time I was working again I broke my comics addiction and haven't had the urge to get back into them. Comic book movies are enough for me these days.
 
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