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We're going to be getting a second Rogue One comic book adaptation, this one is a graphic novel coming from IDW. The big point point of difference for this one is that it is done in the art is done in the style of Disney animation.
Unless there's more of a big selling point to this one, if I decide to go for a RO comic book adaptation, it'll be the Marvel one.

These are geared toward a kid audience. The Original Trilogy and Prequel Trilogy adaptations were done by Italian illustrators and published by Disney in omnibus volumes. (The Original Trilogy volume, IIRC, played down the Han/Leia relationship.) The format is different, too, larger than the typical comic book. That's what the Force Awakens and Rogue One graphic novels from IDW will be.
 
I see. It's still surprising to me that we're getting Star Wars comics from Marvel and IDW now. IDW is also doing the Star Wars Adventures series.

So did anyone pick up any of the new books?
 
I could use non-canon old EU advice that all you wonderful people might be able to give me.
I generally don't care much for most of the SW novels because of the few I've read, the vast majority were... very mediocre.

Having said that, I fell in love with Timothy Zahn's first trilogy when I was a teenager, and to this day it's probably my favorite piece of Star Wars (yes, better than the movies...). Much of that is down to Mara, because I just love redemption stories. The way Zahn made her a relatable character even before she became "good", was great.
Having said that, I feel like I'm missing... quite a few years in my version of Mara because I haven't read all that many books.

I've read Zahn's first trilogy, then the Hand of Thrawn duology, and Survivor's Quest. Apart from that I've read some crap I don't remember the names of that really didn't give me much great Mara content (and even less Mara/Luke content).

The big gap I'm seeing is the stuff between the trilogy and the duology. I'm not really interested in every single detail of her smuggler CV but I keep thinking there's gotta be some good stuff on the time Mara actually got her Jedi training from Luke? Or isn't there?

At the start of the duology, Mara is pretty worried because Luke had used the force too much in previous years and obviously I have no clue what that refers to. But if Mara was involved in that story as well, I might actually care.
And is there anything worth reading that deals with the 3 years between Hand of Thrawn and Survivor's Quest? (I've actually read the Union comic.)

So uhh, what I'm asking is: Do you have any recommended reading for me?
 
Random sidenote: I might die of boredom if I have to read about Leia and her children. I was always tempted to skip her chapters even in Zahn's books.
 
So did anyone pick up any of the new books?

Of the stuff out now, I want to get copies of the Phasma novel and BB-8 chapter book. Maybe the Leia novel too.

I could use non-canon old EU advice that all you wonderful people might be able to give me.

I'll see what I can do.

I generally don't care much for most of the SW novels because of the few I've read, the vast majority were... very mediocre.

Your mileage may vary is always the rule of thumb. (Personally, I've found the that the post-Disney stuff has been generally pretty good, but that's IMHO).

Having said that, I fell in love with Timothy Zahn's first trilogy when I was a teenager, and to this day it's probably my favorite piece of Star Wars (yes, better than the movies...).

It's pretty good (a top ten-er for sure). My personal favorite is Kenobi by John Jackson Miller, although I think the movies are better than the tie-ins.

Much of that is down to Mara, because I just love redemption stories. The way Zahn made her a relatable character even before she became "good", was great.

Yeah, can see that. Heck, I'd argue of all the main characters in the book, she was the only one who had an actual story arc in it; everyone else was basically the same by the end; she was the only one who changed over the course of the story (albeit dragging her feet the whole way :lol:).

Having said that, I feel like I'm missing... quite a few years in my version of Mara because I haven't read all that many books.

I've read Zahn's first trilogy, then the Hand of Thrawn duology, and Survivor's Quest. Apart from that I've read some crap I don't remember the names of that really didn't give me much great Mara content (and even less Mara/Luke content).

Let's see, Mara was one of the lead characters of the Zahn-written "Hand of Judgement" duology (Allegiance and Choices of One) set shortly after A New Hope, during her tenure as Imperial superspy extraordinaire (not really much about her with Luke, given the timeframe). She also starred or appeared in short stories in the anthologies Tales From Jabba's Palace (dramatizing the mission she described to Luke in the original Thrawn books), Tales From the Empire (setting up her smuggling career), and Tales From the New Republic (an adventure she had sometime after the Thrawn Trilogy).

She also had notable supporting roles in quite a few of the New Republic era novels: the Jedi Academy trilogy (Jedi Search, Dark Apprentice, and Champions of the Force) and that trilogy's companion volume I, Jedi; Children of the Jedi; Darksaber; and the Corellian trilogy (Ambush at Corellia, Assault at Selonia, and Showdown at Centerpoint). As a member of the Solo/Skywalker family, she was a key character in the New Jedi Order series, Dark Nest trilogy, and Legacy of the Forces series. At that point the character only had a couple cameos in the Fate of the Jedi series (that was basically the end of the Legends Star Wars continuity, minus the Legacy comics set generations after the original trilogy character's time). If you don't know why Mara was not in the books much after Legacy of the Force, I should caution you that you probably won't like it at all.

Besides the Union comic, she was the star of the miniseries Mara Jade: By Emperor's Hand (explaining how she went from Imperial agent to outlaw after Return of the Jedi) and the short story "Mara Jade: A Night on the Town" in Star Wars Tales #1/Star Wars Tales Vol. 1 trade paperback (a pre-Return of the Jedi mission).

The big gap I'm seeing is the stuff between the trilogy and the duology. I'm not really interested in every single detail of her smuggler CV but I keep thinking there's gotta be some good stuff on the time Mara actually got her Jedi training from Luke? Or isn't there?

There really isn't. In the New Republic stuff, it's mostly about her being a smuggler or New Republic ally. Next to nothing about her getting training, much less from Luke; I, Jedi would be the closest, but her interactions with Luke are pretty sparse, although it is a first-person story about another student (you would want to read the Jedi Academy Trilogy first, since I, Jedi fills in the gaps of that story).

At the start of the duology, Mara is pretty worried because Luke had used the force too much in previous years and obviously I have no clue what that refers to.

Basically all the New Republic Bantam-published novels plus the Dark Empire, Dark Empire II, and Dark Empire: Empire's End comics. Pretty much everything gets a nod.

But if Mara was involved in that story as well, I might actually care.

She wasn't as I recall, esp. for the really big stuff.

And is there anything worth reading that deals with the 3 years between Hand of Thrawn and Survivor's Quest? (I've actually read the Union comic.)

There was a short story, Judge's Call (read here), but it's pretty inconsequential. Beyond that, absolutely nothing period.

So uhh, what I'm asking is: Do you have any recommended reading for me?

Random sidenote: I might die of boredom if I have to read about Leia and her children. I was always tempted to skip her chapters even in Zahn's books.

Beyond the Mara books described above (and of those I think the "Hand of Judgement," the Tales anthologies, and By the Emperor's Hand comic were the best ones), I could think of a few.

As far as Legends stuff goes, Kenobi, by John Jackson Miller is probably the best Star Wars book written IMHO (it's a Western-style book with Kenobi as the stranger coming to town in a story explaining how he settled into Tatooine after Order 66). Scoundrels by Timothy Zahn is a pretty good Han Solo-centric post A New Hope story (it's Star Wars meets Ocean's Eleven). The two Han Solo trilogies by Brian Daley and A.C. Crispin are worth reading if you're a Han Solo fan (the Daley books are a series of three adventures Han and Chewie had before the movies, while the Crispin ones give Han a backstory from his earliest days to literally when we first meet him in the films). I'm also extremely partial to the Knight Errant novel and comics by John Jackson Miller (set generations before the movies, they follow a young Jedi Knight trapped alone in a sector of space being fought over by various Sith Lords).

In canon, Lost Stars is really good (follows two soldiers during the original movies). The Rogue One prequel novels Catalyst and Rebel Rising add a lot to the movie. The Rogue One novelization is also a must-read. I also really like Rey's Survival Guide (a book about Jakku as written by Rey) and Before the Awakening (an anthology of stories about Rey, Finn, and Poe shortly before Force Awakens). Inferno Squad is a pretty good novel about an Imperial team on a mission after New Hope. If you like the Thrawn Trilogy, the new Thrawn novel by Zahn might be of interest to you. As far as comics go, the original Darth Vader series and current Doctor Aphra series are the best of what I've seen.
 
The big gap I'm seeing is the stuff between the trilogy and the duology. I'm not really interested in every single detail of her smuggler CV but I keep thinking there's gotta be some good stuff on the time Mara actually got her Jedi training from Luke? Or isn't there?

I'm not massively knowledgeable on the subject as this is pretty much where my interest in Star Wars books started to tail off way back when, and I've never really gone back to see what I missed. However, the impression I get is that for the most part she was relegated to a semi-recurring background character. When she did appear one had the distinct impression that (with one or two exceptions) the other authors didn't know how to write her, or really know what to do with her.

As for her training specifically...aside from the awful KJA Academy trilogy, the only thing that springs to mind is the 'Mysteries of the Sith' video game and there's really not much in the way of story content. But you do get to play as Mara, purple lightsaber and all, so there's that at least.

So probably best to stick to Zahn's writings about her. I know he did a few other than the Thrawn duology, but I'm pretty sure they're set *before* the events of his trilogy, not after. There's probably a good list that breaks it down on wookipedia or something.

So uhh, what I'm asking is: Do you have any recommended reading for me?

Zahn's new 'Thrawn' book might be worth checking out if you found that character interesting.

If you really do like redemption stories then 'Dark Disciple' is probably a good one to check out. Note though that while not strictly necessary; to get the most out of it you need to have watched 'The Clone Wars', or at least the dozen or so episodes that feature Ventress. Worth it though since IMO, some of those (particularly the later ones) are among the better Star Wars material out there (yes, including the movies!)
 
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I recommend some of the old republic novels like "Deceived, with a great Sith Lord. And the Clone wars novels like Dark Rendezvous, Labyrinth of evil, The Cestus Deception, Dark lord: Rise of Darth Vader and cloak of deception are really good.
 
Mara was in the KJA Jedi Academy trilogy? I read those years ago, and actually enjoyed them, but I have no memory whatsoever of Mara being in them.
 
Mara was in the KJA Jedi Academy trilogy? I read those years ago, and actually enjoyed them, but I have no memory whatsoever of Mara being in them.

Yeah. As I recall, she first popped up in the second one and was in the third as well. She was mostly connected to the stuff with Han Solo and Lando Calrissian.
 
I started the third collection of the current Marvel Star Wars series. So far I've read Annual #1, and I'm part way through the first part of Rebel Jail.
The annual was a nice little standalone, with a really interesting new hero. I hope we see him again at some point.
 
Just got done with 'Leia: A Princess of Alderaan' and it didn't disappoint.

Very well written and a nice little character study with a surprising number of ties to several other stories. Including Laura Dern's character from TLJ in a major supporting role, though as a young girl of course. I doubt I'm the first or the last to make this connection, but her character *really* reminded me of Luna Lovegood from the Harry Potter books. Not a bad thing. Luna was always one of my favourite secondary characters.

Most interesting of all I think is that this is the most involved Leia's adoptive mother has featured in any Star Wars project to date. Indeed, aside from her very brief appearance in RotS I can hardly think of anything else that's featured her at all. Indeed, Leia's childhood has been a surprisingly neglected subject and one I hope to see revisited in the future.

If I had to pick a highlight, it'd have to be...
...a surprisingly tense and suspenseful scene where Leia visits the Naboo system and introduces herself to the local Moff Panaka (yes, *that* Panaka!) alongside the incumbent Queen of Naboo....and she's wearing one of Padme's old dresses. Needless to say, he nearly drops his tea in shock.

It's like the ticking time bomb hidden under the cafe table Hitchcock would sometime use to describe a scene that's only suspenseful to the audience.
Leia is utterly clueless to the subtext of the conversation, but as a reader you see Panaka (a stanch Palpatine supporter) put together who she really is piece-by-piece. Luckily Saw Gerrera makes the problem go away, which feels a little contrived, but I'm willing to let it slide.

The whole thing is all the more impressive because intellectually you know she's never found out because we've all seen the movies, but I found it quite nail-biting nonetheless.

Next up: Phasma!
 
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Just got done with 'Leia: A Princess of Alderaan' and it didn't disappoint.

Very well written and a nice little character study with a surprising number of ties to several other stories, including Laura Dern's character from TLJ in a major supporting role, though as a young girl of course. I doubt I'm the first or the last to make this connection, but her character *really* reminded me of Luna Lovegood from the Harry Potter books. Not a bad thing. Luna was always one of my favourite secondary characters.

Most interesting of all I think is that this is the most involved Leia's adoptive mother has featured in any Star Wars project to date. Indeed, aside from her very brief appearance in RotS I can hardly think of anything else that's featured her at all. Indeed, Leia's childhood has been a surprisingly neglected subject and one I hope to see revisited in the future.

If I had to pick a highlight, it'd have to be...
...a surprisingly tense and suspenseful scene where Leia visits the Naboo system and introduces herself to the local Moff Panaka (yes, *that* Panaka!)

Next up: Phasma!


Panaka was a Moff in Legends as well interestingly enough
 
Just got done with 'Leia: A Princess of Alderaan' and it didn't disappoint.

Very well written and a nice little character study with a surprising number of ties to several other stories, including Laura Dern's character from TLJ in a major supporting role, though as a young girl of course. I doubt I'm the first or the last to make this connection, but her character *really* reminded me of Luna Lovegood from the Harry Potter books. Not a bad thing. Luna was always one of my favourite secondary characters.

Most interesting of all I think is that this is the most involved Leia's adoptive mother has featured in any Star Wars project to date. Indeed, aside from her very brief appearance in RotS I can hardly think of anything else that's featured her at all. Indeed, Leia's childhood has been a surprisingly neglected subject and one I hope to see revisited in the future.

If I had to pick a highlight, it'd have to be...
...a surprisingly tense and suspenseful scene where Leia visits the Naboo system and introduces herself to the local Moff Panaka (yes, *that* Panaka!) alongside the incumbent Queen of Naboo....and she's wearing one of Padme's old dresses. Needless to say, he nearly drops his tea in shock.

It reminds me of the way Hitchcock would explain how to make an otherwise innocuous conversation fraught suspense. It's like the ticking time bomb hidden under the cafe table Hitchcock would sometime use to describe a scene that's only suspenseful to the audience.
Leia is utterly clueless to the subtext of the conversation, but as a reader you see Panaka (a stanch Palpatine supporter) put together who she really is piece-by-piece. Luckily Saw Gerrera makes the problem go away, which feels a little contrived, but I'm willing to let it slide.

The whole thing is all the more impressive because intellectually you know she's never found out because we've all seen the movies, but I found it quite nail-biting nonetheless.

Next up: Phasma!
Which one the novel or comic?
Saw Gerrera is in the Leia book?
 
If I had to pick a highlight, it'd have to be...
...a surprisingly tense and suspenseful scene where Leia visits the Naboo system and introduces herself to the local Moff Panaka (yes, *that* Panaka!) alongside the incumbent Queen of Naboo....and she's wearing one of Padme's old dresses. Needless to say, he nearly drops his tea in shock.

It reminds me of the way Hitchcock would explain how to make an otherwise innocuous conversation fraught suspense. It's like the ticking time bomb hidden under the cafe table Hitchcock would sometime use to describe a scene that's only suspenseful to the audience.
Leia is utterly clueless to the subtext of the conversation, but as a reader you see Panaka (a stanch Palpatine supporter) put together who she really is piece-by-piece. Luckily Saw Gerrera makes the problem go away, which feels a little contrived, but I'm willing to let it slide.

The whole thing is all the more impressive because intellectually you know she's never found out because we've all seen the movies, but I found it quite nail-biting nonetheless.


That was a really good scene, esp. because of the ambiguity; most of the other characters had the opinion that Panaka was an honest person and the most likely moff they could've swayed to the Rebellion. But he did seem esp. interested in telling the Emperor what he'd figured out. So, was there a sinister motive or was it an innocent intent? We don't know, never will, and that makes the scene even more interesting

Next up: Phasma!

I liked that one, but it does take some surprising turns, so check your expectations in at the door.

Saw Gerrera is in the Leia book?

Gerrera is just talked about; he was behind something that happens over the course of the story.
 
Panaka was a Moff in Legends as well interestingly enough
Yup, except...
...there he lived to see the New Republic.
Which one the novel or comic?
The novel. I don't know if the comic is even out yet.
I liked that one, but it does take some surprising turns, so check your expectations in at the door.
Oh I don't know, I think my initial impression that Phasma was the Star Wars equivalent to a Sardaukar is turning out to be more accurate that I'd thought possible. ;)
 
Oh I don't know, I think my initial impression that Phasma was the Star Wars equivalent to a Sardaukar is turning out to be more accurate that I'd thought possible. ;)

I meant more in terms of how much of the novel is set in a specific place. I'm also pretty sure that Phasma is not the character a reader would think she was going in, but that was just my opinion.
 
I meant more in terms of how much of the novel is set in a specific place. I'm also pretty sure that Phasma is not the character a reader would think she was going in, but that was just my opinion.

I know what you meant and I was only sorta half-serious (also hence the "more accurate that I'd thought possible" bit.) I guess I assumed anyone who knows where Sardaukar come from should have gotten the reference.

Honestly though, I didn't have any particular expectation that the story would require a huge amount of space travel. A number of these novels so far have been contained to mostly one primary location.
 
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