Star Wars Books Thread

[kirk55555]

As I understand it, Thrawn is a TV show character first and foremost now, so Dave Filoni and co. are the ones that get the first crack at any future story with him. Whether that will happen or not remains to be seen, but the people working on the cartoons were huge fans of the character, so maybe?

Why would he be a tv show character "first and foremost"? He's starred in three books, and was originally a book character. He's no more a "tv character" then, say, Obi Wan Kenobi is. Also, Dave Filoni doesn't run Star Wars, so its not really up to him. the people who "get a crack at him" are whoever makes a pitch that the actual people running the brand think is worth doing.

 

[Ithekro]

Pretty much at this point, any post Rebels book that deals with Thrawn will also have to deal with Ezra, since they currently share a mystery fate...what happens to one will have an effect on the story of the other. Thus it will likely be a Filoni project that would being Thrawn back into the picture, because doing so also has to address "where is Ezra?". After that the authors can have their way.

At this point, I'd put more stock into a Filoni mystery box than an Abrams mystery box. Filoni at least makes an effort to connect the dots to his puzzles.

 

[WebLurker]

Why would he be a tv show character "first and foremost"? He's starred in three books, and was originally a book character. He's no more a "tv character" then, say, Obi Wan Kenobi is.

Legends Thrawn was originally a book character and had that medium as his primary place of story. Canon Thrawn first appeared in the TV show, his novels were made to tie into that show, not the other way round. So, yeah, Thrawn is now an animated character in the franchise, like Ahsoka.

Also, Dave Filoni doesn't run Star Wars, so its not really up to him. the people who "get a crack at him" are whoever makes a pitch that the actual people running the brand think is worth doing.

I could be wrong, but I think Zahn has made it clear that Filoni gets dibs before he does, due to the shows being higher up then the books. Also, Filoni has shown a tendency to bring back cartoon characters he's worked with on other cartoons and basically runs that department. Kinda hard to see LucasFilm saying no if he had an idea for Thrawn. Also, as noted before, Thrawn is tied into the Rebels show; he is, for all intents and purposes, a Rebels character now.

 

[Tuskin38]

Legends Thrawn was originally a book character and had that medium as his primary place of story. Canon Thrawn first appeared in the TV show, his novels were made to tie into that show, not the other way round. So, yeah, Thrawn is now an animated character in the franchise, like Ahsoka.



I could be wrong, but I think Zahn has made it clear that Filoni gets dibs before he does, due to the shows being higher up then the books. Also, Filoni has shown a tendency to bring back cartoon characters he's worked with on other cartoons and basically runs that department. Kinda hard to see LucasFilm saying no if he had an idea for Thrawn. Also, as noted before, Thrawn is tied into the Rebels show; he is, for all intents and purposes, a Rebels character now.

Yes, it was Zahn that said that. He doesn't want to step on Filoni's toes.

 

[kirk55555]

Pretty much at this point, any post Rebels book that deals with Thrawn will also have to deal with Ezra, since they currently share a mystery fate...what happens to one will have an effect on the story of the other. Thus it will likely be a Filoni project that would being Thrawn back into the picture, because doing so also has to address "where is Ezra?". After that the authors can have their way.

At this point, I'd put more stock into a Filoni mystery box than an Abrams mystery box. Filoni at least makes an effort to connect the dots to his puzzles.

Ok, that makes sense. I forgot that they were connected at the end, so it would make sense that Thrawn is tied up until whenever Filoni decides to reveal what happened to Ezra. As for Abrams vs Filoni...both of them suck at mysteries, but TFA was better then anything Filoni has done since Clone Wars ended. I guess I have to say that they both have their problems when it comes to trying to be mysterious, although at least Benedict Cumberbatch not being Kahn was a really obvious fake out, as opposed to Thrawn and Space aladdin disappearing into Force bullshit, which will either never be resolved or will be resolved long after anyone remembers Rebels.

Legends Thrawn was originally a book character and had that medium as his primary place of story. Canon Thrawn first appeared in the TV show, his novels were made to tie into that show, not the other way round. So, yeah, Thrawn is now an animated character in the franchise, like Ahsoka.

Eh, I don't buy that at all. I'll admit that him disappearing with Ezra connects them for now, but if that ever gets resolved I imagine the character would be open for (potentially) anything, without Filoni getting a say.

Also, as noted before, Thrawn is tied into the Rebels show; he is, for all intents and purposes, a Rebels character now.

Well, that would be a real screw you to the character. The only way it could be worse is if he was tied into the current toddler focused cartoon (Resistance, I think). Still, fans of the character certainly won't consider him a "Rebels character", and like I said above I doubt Filoni has control over the character past the resolution of what happened to him and Ezra.

 

[WebLurker]

Eh, I don't buy that at all. I'll admit that him disappearing with Ezra connects them for now, but if that ever gets resolved I imagine the character would be open for (potentially) anything, without Filoni getting a say.

Well, that would be a real screw you to the character. The only way it could be worse is if he was tied into the current toddler focused cartoon (Resistance, I think). Still, fans of the character certainly won't consider him a "Rebels character", and like I said above I doubt Filoni has control over the character past the resolution of what happened to him and Ezra.

I'm not aware of anything that proves that Filoni does or does not have final say on the character (baring his bosses' approval), but common sense would suggest that, since Thrawn was introduced into TV animation, that would be the preferred method of continuing his story. In regards to Thrawn being a primarily Rebels character, it should be noted that that take got the stamp of approval from none other then Timothy Zahn himself. Zahn has also stated that he doesn't want to box Filoni in in regards to the character's future, so, under the circumstances, it seems unlikely that Thrawn will revert to being novels mainly, much less being Zahn's personal project anymore.

 

[Masiral]

the current toddler focused cartoon (Resistance, I think).

Either I missed the episode where Sesame Street gets attacked by mercenaries trying to kill everybody, or HBO really made some changes to that "toddler focused" show.

 

[The Wormhole]

I missed the episode where Sesame Street gets attacked by mercenaries trying to kill everybody

Damn, I really want to see that episode.

 

[Tuskin38]

into the current toddler focused cartoon

It isn't toddler focused. You'd know this if you actually watched the show, instead of commenting on things you know nothing about first hand.

 

[JD]

Any of you guys read the Inferno Squadron book? I just started playing Battlefront II, and I'm curious to learn more about the characters. Are there any reveals in the game that would be spoiled by reading the book before I finish?

 

[Masiral]

Any of you guys read the Inferno Squadron book? I just started playing Battlefront II, and I'm curious to learn more about the characters. Are there any reveals in the game that would be spoiled by reading the book before I finish?

The book takes place right after A New Hope, while the game starts with the end of Return of the Jedi, so nothing will be spoiled by reading the book first.

 

[Tuskin38]

You don't need to play the game first. In fact, it released 4 months before the game, so it was probably intended that way.

 

[JoeZhang]

Either I missed the episode where Sesame Street gets attacked by mercenaries trying to kill everybody, or HBO really made some changes to that "toddler focused" show.

You mercs picked the wrong street to f88k with!

"Send help! My men are being murdered by a big yellow bird with a flamethrower... you heard me a Big yellow bird! "

 

[Smiley]

Any of you guys read the Inferno Squadron book? I just started playing Battlefront II, and I'm curious to learn more about the characters. Are there any reveals in the game that would be spoiled by reading the book before I finish?

I've read this book, and it's very good. You get a real feeling for some of the perspectives and experiences of people from the Empire and how they compare to Saw's group and the main Rebels. As stated above, the book came out before the game and is a prequel that will only enhance your experience with the game, not take away from it.

 

[JD]

OK good to know. I'll definitely be checking it out.
I meant to post this yesterday and I forgot, StarWars.com posted an interview with Delilah S. Dawson, the author of Galaxy's Edge: Black Spire.

 

[WebLurker]

Any of you guys read the Inferno Squadron book? I just started playing Battlefront II, and I'm curious to learn more about the characters. Are there any reveals in the game that would be spoiled by reading the book before I finish?

Didn't read the first one. The second one, with the Inferno Squad team, was designed to be a prequel and read first to introduce the characters. One aspect of the novel might be spoiled by the game and there is a throwaway line in the novel that sets something up in the DLC, but that's all I'm aware of. (The novel is really good and worth the read, IMHO. Janina Gavankar even read the audio book version.)

 

[kirk55555]

Either I missed the episode where Sesame Street gets attacked by mercenaries trying to kill everybody, or HBO really made some changes to that "toddler focused" show.

Ok, I knowingly played up the kiddy levels for a gag. A show for 5 year olds, then. Also, I like how you are over exaggerating the violence, like its anything approaching even Rebels Season 1 levels of violence or writing. It is explicitly a show for kids too young for Rebels, which itself was a show for kids too young for The Clone Wars (or the actual movies, really, since even the prequels post TPM don't get as kiddie as Rebels did in the first few seasons).

Star Wars Resistance was specifically made for an audience younger then Rebels. To pretend that the audience isn't kids in early grade school is silly.

It isn't toddler focused. You'd know this if you actually watched the show, instead of commenting on things you know nothing about first hand.

Assuming I haven't seen a bit of the show, I see Not much though, because its pretty explicitly a show for fairly young kids.

I'm not aware of anything that proves that Filoni does or does not have final say on the character (baring his bosses' approval), but common sense would suggest that, since Thrawn was introduced into TV animation, that would be the preferred method of continuing his story. In regards to Thrawn being a primarily Rebels character, it should be noted that that take got the stamp of approval from none other then Timothy Zahn himself. Zahn has also stated that he doesn't want to box Filoni in in regards to the character's future, so, under the circumstances, it seems unlikely that Thrawn will revert to being novels mainly, much less being Zahn's personal project anymore.

Eh, you're assuming that Filoni will want to do stuff with the character forever. We'll probably never see a cartoon use him or Ezra again, especially with Filoni not even working on cartoons much right now (he's doing the Mandalorian from what I remember, and maybe working on the new Clone Wars stuff, but I'm 99% she that he's completely uninvolved with the little kid cartoon).

I'm pretty sure Thrawn will get to be a book character eventually, because Filoni only ever used him as the d-grade side villain anyway, his attention is barely on cartoons in general, and Thrawn is too popular to just leave in limbo for the probably decade or more before we even have the potential of Filoni resolving anything from Rebels (if he ever bothers/is allowed to). I may think Filoni is a mediocre creator at best, but I doubt he'd be petty enough to just never allow Thrawn stories set after Rebels until some nebulous point where he finally resolves Rebels, and even if he does he could easily move on to a cartoon/show that just couldn't use Thrawn, leaving the character open anyway.

 

[Masiral]

Ok, I knowingly played up the kiddy levels for a gag. A show for 5 year olds, then. Also, I like how you are over exaggerating the violence, like its anything approaching even Rebels Season 1 levels of violence or writing. It is explicitly a show for kids too young for Rebels, which itself was a show for kids too young for The Clone Wars (or the actual movies, really, since even the prequels post TPM don't get as kiddie as Rebels did in the first few seasons).

Star Wars Resistance was specifically made for an audience younger then Rebels. To pretend that the audience isn't kids in early grade school is silly.

And to pretend that the audience is kids in diapers is even sillier.

Eh, you're assuming that Filoni will want to do stuff with the character forever. We'll probably never see a cartoon use him or Ezra again, especially with Filoni not even working on cartoons much right now (he's doing the Mandalorian from what I remember, and maybe working on the new Clone Wars stuff, but I'm 99% she that he's completely uninvolved with the little kid cartoon).

Yes, Filoni doesn't follow up on anything ever. That's why we haven't seen Ahsoka and Rex since The Clone Wars ended in 2013. Or any follow-up to what happened with Death Watch on Mandalore. Oh, wait, that's right, we did.

I'm pretty sure Thrawn will get to be a book character eventually, because Filoni only ever used him as the d-grade side villain anyway, his attention is barely on cartoons in general, and Thrawn is too popular to just leave in limbo for the probably decade or more before we even have the potential of Filoni resolving anything from Rebels (if he ever bothers/is allowed to). I may think Filoni is a mediocre creator at best, but I doubt he'd be petty enough to just never allow Thrawn stories set after Rebels until some nebulous point where he finally resolves Rebels, and even if he does he could easily move on to a cartoon/show that just couldn't use Thrawn, leaving the character open anyway.

Thrawn was not a "d-grade side villain". He was the Big Bad for Season 3 and most of 4, and he only got overshadowed because the Emperor himself showed up. As far as him showing up again, we have no idea what the next plan for animation is. Filoni does, and has probably been working on it for 2 years or so, because it takes a long time to make animated television. And if it takes a decade, then it takes a decade. There were 16 years between the original and prequel trilogies, and another decade between the prequels and sequels. We can wait.

 

[Tuskin38]

Assuming I haven't seen a bit of the show, I see Not much though, because its pretty explicitly a show for fairly young kids.

If by fairly young you mean tweens to teens, then yes.

There is stuff in that show I wouldn't show to kids under 10.

 

[JD]

Damn, I really need to get back to Resistance, I haven't watched it in ages.