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Honestly, I've found that Star Trek often has better reference books. Their chronology is second to none and really put the Star Wars ones to shame. Same with the encyclopedia. The Federation: The First 150 Years "in-universe" book compared really well to what you'd get out of Star Wars.

That said, I do think Star Wars tends to be somewhat more consistent in quality (for all the good Star Trek books you get, there are some really bad ones, like that original Technical Manual that people swear by for some reason) and they can do canon reference material in a way Star Trek "can't."
Star Wars had a decent chronology for a while, until the reboot. I will agree about the Encyclopedia, but the other side of that is the fact that Star Trek has done that for longer, beginning with Bjo Trimble's Concordance. Star Wars is better at tying in to on screen material, from how a starship works to what different little details mean, up to and including random and obscure characters and their tattoos.

Now, I have the Star Trek Encyclopedia, and tech manual (love that thing), but it sometimes feels less accessible if I'm looking for something specific. Star Wars books feels a lot easier to navigate for finding out specific details.

I like Star Trek books, but I think Star Wars does a better job overall in terms of tech and reference.
 
Star Wars had a decent chronology for a while, until the reboot.

I don't think they've published a new once since the reboot. That reboot would complicate things a bit, since it's the first time that a parallel universe has had equal or near-equal importance to the main one. But you could do it.

I will agree about the Encyclopedia, but the other side of that is the fact that Star Trek has done that for longer, beginning with Bjo Trimble's Concordance.

I can see the point.

Star Wars is better at tying in to on screen material, from how a starship works to what different little details mean, up to and including random and obscure characters and their tattoos.

True; Star Trek reference material tends to only consolidate onscreen info, not add new stuff (tech manuals are the exception, but those aren't really reference books, but non-canon in-universe textbooks, a la the Jedi Path and stuff). They do seem to be made with different ideas in mind (cataloguing the universe vs. expanding on it).

Now, I have the Star Trek Encyclopedia, and tech manual (love that thing), but it sometimes feels less accessible if I'm looking for something specific. Star Wars books feels a lot easier to navigate for finding out specific details.

I'm not so much into the tech manuals (although I want a copy of Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise); it's not really my thing and I tend to like to stick to canon stuff when it comes to reference materials and leave non-canon what-if for the tie-in fiction. My personal favorite Star Trek "reference" books are the old LUG RPGs they made on the franchise; kinda out of date in regards to the fluff, but it was very good fluff in how it built on what we knew at the time.

I like the Encyclopedia and Chronology and, ironically, the reason I like them better then most Star Wars stuff is I found them far more accessible. Take the New Essential Chronology for Star Wars. Wonderfully written like it's an actual history text book and beautiful illustrations. However, absolutely no sources cited. I'd read about these wonderful tales I was interested in finding the book/comic/whatever and getting the full thing, but I'd have to go online and do the legwork to find out what it was. With Star Trek stuff, every factoid had a specific episode/movie cited, so you could see it for yourself. It could even double as a chronological order checklist, since each episode and movie was given a header title with the stardate and everything. Even beyond that, there were plenty of notation and editor's comments explaining how the information was crunched, what kinds of judgement calls were made in regards to inconsistencies and events where there were gaps of knowledge, plus interesting appendixes with even more info.

I think the two franchises encyclopedias were comparable in terms of being easy to use, but the little behind the scenes goodies in Star Trek's put it ahead for me.

I like Star Trek books, but I think Star Wars does a better job overall in terms of tech and reference.

Fair enough. I like Star Trek as a franchise slightly more, so that is my bias. I guess I think that Star Wars tends to have better artistic quality and mastered the "in-universe" reference books, character journals, and the like, while Star Trek tends to be better for research.
 
True; Star Trek reference material tends to only consolidate onscreen info, not add new stuff (tech manuals are the exception, but those aren't really reference books, but non-canon in-universe textbooks, a la the Jedi Path and stuff). They do seem to be made with different ideas in mind (cataloguing the universe vs. expanding on it).
The Vulcan and Klingon travel guides add a ton of original stuff, and have a fair amount of stuff from the books too. I haven't read it, but I believe Federation: The First 150 Years does too.
I don't know if they really count in this conversation, but there are also three character autobiographies, one each for Kirk, Picard, and Spock and they all add new stuff to fill in some of the gaps.

I like Star Trek books, but I think Star Wars does a better job overall in terms of tech and reference.
Overall, I prefer Star Trek for narrative based books and Star Wars for reference books.
 
The Vulcan and Klingon travel guides add a ton of original stuff, and have a fair amount of stuff from the books too. I haven't read it, but I believe Federation: The First 150 Years does too.
I don't know if they really count in this conversation, but there are also three character autobiographies, one each for Kirk, Picard, and Spock and they all add new stuff to fill in some of the gaps.

True, but those are non-canon and generally only exist onto themselves. Never read the travel guides. The Federation book was good (although I don't think it's going to age well in a post-DSC world). Read the Kirk and Picard biographies (will have to look for the Spock one). Okay, but they didn't quite click with me for some reason. They were good ideas, though.

Overall, I prefer Star Trek for narrative based books and Star Wars for reference books.

Fair enough. Personally, I've been liking the new Star Wars novels a lot and not so much the Star Trek ones (although the DSC ones have been really good).
 
The only new canon book I've read so far is Lost Stars, and that was great, but I still didn't quite enjoy it as much as I do the Trek books. I think it just comes down to fact that I prefer Trek overall. Star Trek is my absolute favorite franchise, with Star Wars a close second, so I just don't think anything Wars is ever going to be entirely at the same level as Trek stuff for me.
 
I got the new edition of the Falcon owners manual, I never owned the first, so I really tell you what's different.

It includes a few things from Legends I like. The XS Light Freighter from the SWTOR MMO (the Smuggler class ship) is mentioned, along with a 3D render of it. The YT-2000, which was the main cargo ship in the 'X-Wing Alliance' game is in here, and the YT-2400 'Outrider' from Shadows of the Empire is mentioned.
 
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I picked up Last Flight of the Harbinger, Vol. 4 of the ongoing no subtitle comic, so I can get back to it after having taken a break to work on some of the miniseries.
 
I decided I was in the mood for a Star Wars novel, so I started Dark Disciple this morning.
Do we know yet how the new The Clone Wars episodes are going to treat the unfinished episodes, or scripts that were adapted as books and comics yet?
 
I decided I was in the mood for a Star Wars novel, so I started Dark Disciple this morning.
Do we know yet how the new The Clone Wars episodes are going to treat the unfinished episodes, or scripts that were adapted as books and comics yet?
As far as LF are concerned, all of that material is canon and that has always been the case, even before they got the green light to go finish the show.

Indeed, the 'Ahsoka' book even included a sliver of one of the Mandalore episodes that are only now finally being produced. It's even indirectly referenced in Rebels more than once; that's how Maul & Ahsoka knew each other prior to 'Twilight of the Apprentice' and it's why Ahsoka says the last time she saw Anakin he was rushing off to save Palpatine rather than on the steps of the temple as we saw in the show.

If you're asking if they'll be re-adapting 'Dark Disciple' back into episodes: to my knowledge they haven't specified what stories they're producing (though from the teaser, the 'Siege of Mandalore' arc is an obvious one.) That said, I doubt the 'Dark Disciple' will be among them since that's two arcs totalling about 6-8 episodes that's squarely focused on Ventress. It more likely that they're going to treat this as their last chance and go for the threads most in need of tying up, which is basically all of the unproduced Ahsoka material.
 
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I wasn't just talking about Dark Disciple, I was talking about all of the "Legacies" material, the unfinished episodes, DD, and Son of Dathomir. What you said about why they wouldn't need to do the DD episodes makes sense. Ventress was kind of a side story, so if they do go back and do finish up some of the Legacies stuff, I could see skipping her stories to focus on the core cast.
I was looking through the TCW episode timeline and it has the Son of Dathomir episodes right in the middle of the Dark Disciple episodes. Anybody know about where that would fall in the book? I tend to read books and comics at the same time, so I might go ahead and read Son of Dathomir when I reach that point.
 
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I wasn't just talking about Dark Disciple, I was talking about all of the "Legacies" material, the unfinished episodes, DD, and Son of Dathomir. What you said about why they wouldn't need to do the DD episodes makes sense. Ventress was kind of a side story, so if they do go back and do finish up some of the Legacies stuff, I could see skipping her stories to focus on the core cast.
I was looking through the TCW episode timeline and it has the Son of Dathomir episodes right in the middle of the Dark Disciple episodes. Anybody know about where that would fall in the book? I tend to read books and comics at the same time, so I might go ahead and read Son of Dathomir when I reach that point.
As I said, DD is basically two arcs of 4 episodes each, so there's a natural breaking point right smack in the middle accompanied by a bit of a time jump. You'll know it when it happens.

Think of it like the two Darth Maul arcs. 'Revival' picks up right where 'Revenge' left off, but there's a clear passage of time between the two (indeed, they were meant to be further apart before it was decided to move Maul up to the premier arc for season 5.)
 
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So will this be the farthest forward in the timeline we've seen a Rebels character, or is the epilogue of the finale even farther?
 
Oh, I've never seen it, so I just assumed it had a so many years later caption or a reference in dialog about how long it had been or something.
 
We know it was after Endor, probably a year after as that's when the war ended, and it give Hera's kid time to be able to sit in the co-pilot's chair (probably five years old).
 
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