They looked like transport ships as oppose to the warships.
Love this episode. Man, clone wars is slowly becoming my most looked forward show. I might even say it is my most favorite incarnation of star wars yet.
Star Wars 1x19 "Storm over Ryloth" Discuss/Grade <Spoilers>
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They looked like transport ships as oppose to the warships.
Love this episode. Man, clone wars is slowly becoming my most looked forward show. I might even say it is my most favorite incarnation of star wars yet.
All space combat in Star Wars is based on the concept that it would develop along the lines of WWI dogfighting. Viewing Star Wars fleet combat from the point of view of WWI naval aviation, it would be considered to be a brilliant innovation, mostly because no one knew how to use aircraft carriers in WWI. Few tacticians of the time would have pointed the guns away from the enemy and relied entirely on aircraft for offense. No one really understood how powerful air superiority could be and most prefered to rely on the tried and true big guns.
Of course, basing space combat on WWI naval dogfighting is insane. But, that was the style decision that Lucas made with the first movie and it's too late to change now.
Excellent episode. This Ryloth trilogy is going to be a winner.
Very good stuff on the Anakin/Ahsoka front and exploring the consequences of actions. Anakin's plan is very Anakin and definitely worthy of "The Hero with No Fear." Ahsoka's plan was an interesting one too and the space battles were fantastic once again. I also liked Ahsoka's little scene with Yularen. Although she shouldn't feel too bad...Yularen eventually gets blowed up on the Death Star! Which is too bad, as I like the character. Another plus is that the Nemoidian Admiral is smart and a worthy adversary. I'm glad he survived.
Which brings up the only problem I had with the episode...it's ridiculous that the Seperatist fleet would have only a single non-droid commander. Even they're not stupid enough to do that.
Very good stuff on the Anakin/Ahsoka front and exploring the consequences of actions. Anakin's plan is very Anakin and definitely worthy of "The Hero with No Fear." Ahsoka's plan was an interesting one too and the space battles were fantastic once again. I also liked Ahsoka's little scene with Yularen. Although she shouldn't feel too bad...Yularen eventually gets blowed up on the Death Star! Which is too bad, as I like the character. Another plus is that the Nemoidian Admiral is smart and a worthy adversary. I'm glad he survived.
Which brings up the only problem I had with the episode...it's ridiculous that the Seperatist fleet would have only a single non-droid commander. Even they're not stupid enough to do that.
Was he? I couldn't tell. I couldn't get past the lame, stereotyped fake Asian accent. As a reviewer remarked somewhere, not one of Corey Burton's better voice roles.
^Maybe I'm young enough that the accent sounds more Nemoidian than falsely Asian to me. (Then again, it never really occurred to me that Fu Manchu was East Asian when I was little, despite my loving the movies featuring him which I saw.)
I read somewhere that he's supposed to be something of an Imperial Rommel: a decent man who is loyal to his nation even when it becomes twisted into something evil. (I suppose Stephen Decatur might be a similar example - though his nation didn't actually twist.)
I read somewhere that he's supposed to be something of an Imperial Rommel: a decent man who is loyal to his nation even when it becomes twisted into something evil. (I suppose Stephen Decatur might be a similar example - though his nation didn't actually twist.)
Didn't she say she was 15 in the movie ?
I actually meant that as a reflection on BSG more than on CW.
Oh, I know what they were going for. It just came off more like someone being disinterested in reading the lines than it did someone being down and out. I'm not sure if they didn't master the vocal track properly or something, but it sounded like something being read than being delivered.
Which in turn raises another issue. Where are the non-villainous Separatists? All we ever see are Droids, Neimodians and like greed-heads, and Sith. Where are the 'heroes on both sides'? Where are the people who are just fed up with the out of touch yet intrusive Republic governance?
I realize Lucas has avoided this like the plague, but I almost feel like CW might be the venue for a tightly-plotted time travel story of some kind.
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I think that crawl to ROTS was poorly worded..."champions" on boths sides might be more apt. Though, we only see Grievous and Ventress for the Seperatists, and 99.999999% of what see of seperatist forces are droids. I suspect this is because the show is kiddie aimed and doesn't want the heroes killing living beings.
Yeah I'm still waiting on the Seppie "heroes". The only example I can think of are in the novel Shatterpoint. I'd like to see some more Dark Side villains aside from Dooku and Ventress, as well. Maybe in S2? I mean really are they gonna use the same trifecta of villains for 100 episodes?
^It's a bit tricky since there's only supposed to be a Master (Palpatine) and an Apprentice (Dooku). They're skirting around that issue with Ventress (by saying she's not actually a Sith, just a force sensitive woman who hates Jedi) and Grievous as it is.
They could use characters from the movies like Nute Gunray or Poggle the Lesser more often though. Poggle the Lesser's people were apparently advanced enough to design the Death Star so they must be doing something right.
They could use characters from the movies like Nute Gunray or Poggle the Lesser more often though. Poggle the Lesser's people were apparently advanced enough to design the Death Star so they must be doing something right.
Temporary naval command by young persons isn't entirely unusual historically. David Farragut, for instance, commanded his first prize ship at 12.
Like a planetary leader whose fed up with the Republic's corruption? I'd like to see that myself because the Republic has been portrayed as a corrupt government unworthy of loyalty in the prequels.
Though I have no sympathy for the Seperatists. You can't bemoan corruption and then join forces with that very same corruption, ie the Trade and Commerce Guilds.
You know, I think Anakin's jinxed when it comes to flagships and command bridges. Think about it, his Imperial flagship is taken out by a starfighter to the bridge. And the Resolute, his Republic flagship, is nearly taken out by a starfighter to the bridge. Then there is his whole plan to blow up Malevolent's bridge to take out Grievous.
It's official: The safest job on a ship in Star Wars is any but the bridge.
It's official: The safest job on a ship in Star Wars is any but the bridge.
Which is another reason, I that I don't really consider the EU part of the Lucas Star Wars timeline and more or less a alt-universe.
Rodia leaned that way in the earlier episode "Bombad Jedi." They had pretty much signed their freedom away before the Republic saved their butts. And of course the pacifists that were determined to play it neutral when the seperatists wanted to use them as weapons test subjects.
Luckily there should be a second season coming and we might get to see some of that "other side of the coin" perspective.
I really liked this episode, despite any strategic military flaws it might have indulged.
I really liked the part where the injured Admiral Yularen opened his eyes right after Ahsoka leaves his bedside. Though somewhat predictable, I thought that gave him a little depth. Nice guy. Too bad he gets blown to bits on the Death Star.
Do they only kill clone troopers with their masks on? Is that their way of justifying killing so many on a show they will run on Saturday morning? I know they run the violence rating and everything, but I wondered if that was a standard they had to follow?
So that means Thrawn ripped off Ahsoka...
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