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Star Trek XI Enterprise Engineering set?

It looked like a giant industrial facility dedicated to the production of massive amounts of electrical power and the processing of volatile chemicals and/or life support materials.

It looked like a giant industrial facility dedicated to the production of massive amounts of beer.

And you're REALLY going to sit there an bullshit me by pretending you intuitively know what a brewery actually looks like?

Yes, I do happen to know what a brewery looks like. Sorry.
 
Engineering didn't bother me.

Of all the Star Trek Starship Enterprises' Engineering Room Sets in all the Star Trek incarnations would you rate it at the top or bottom of the lot? :shrug:

Could be worse. They could have just recycled the entire engineering set from TNG and slapped "danger" stickers on all the panels.;)
That didn't bother me so much, since the corridors on TNG were based on the original sets from TMP and even retained some original setpieces, so it makes sense to see that. What bothered me is that there was no engine room in TFF! You just see Scotty talk into a panel with some pipes on the wall.

Brewery or not, the engine room looked "real." It had nuts and bolts and tubes and stuff. It looked as tactile as the original show, while giving it a little more realism. I wasn't crazy about the idea when I read the behind the scenes interviews during production, but I think it looks massive on the screen...like an space aged ocean liner or steam ship. Scientifically accurate?? Definitely not, but we only saw a small part of the "guts" of the ship during TOS, so who's to say this couldn't be plausible as well??
 
I actually liked it ALOT. The only problem I had was the lack of a "main" console for Scotty to stand at so he could have a single obvious prop to look at and then shout "She's giving it all she's got, Captain!" Just one big obvious console like that and the set would have been perfect.
 
I suspect he'll get one in the next movie since Scotty's role in this one was minimal and mainly comic relief.
 
Now that's more like it, Mr. Wayne.

Especially the first pic, looks similar to the TMP engine room. But yeah, that brewery was soooooooooo much better. Budget restrictions, my ass.

This was touched upon by John Eaves (not sure I would consider him a dishonest guy) who mentioned on his blog a while back that J.J. initially requested a larger budget but Paramount was reluctant to go that high and thus why engineering was done on location to save money. Obviously there was interest in a set as those plans were commissioned as you can see. But the exchange for doing the brewery set obviously included a mention of the product they make, "Budweiser," or as mentioned "Budweiser classic." Plus, the brewery does have its place in sci-fi history prior to this film so it works out just fine. Things aren't as simple as "I want a set" and one appears suddenly.
 
^Except the Star Trek PADD has storage space for only one file, and you need a whole stack of them to get anythine done. "Sophisticated, clean and tidy" it ain't.

But one could assume that by Star Trek's time that one file the PADD holds, is probably a million (or more) Terabyte's (or Teraquads in Trek slang) of information. So how is that NOT Sophisticated?


Now that's more like it, Mr. Wayne.

Especially the first pic, looks similar to the TMP engine room. But yeah, that brewery was soooooooooo much better. Budget restrictions, my ass.

This was touched upon by John Eaves (not sure I would consider him a dishonest guy) who mentioned on his blog a while back that J.J. initially requested a larger budget but Paramount was reluctant to go that high and thus why engineering was done on location to save money. Obviously there was interest in a set as those plans were commissioned as you can see. But the exchange for doing the brewery set obviously included a mention of the product they make, "Budweiser," or as mentioned "Budweiser classic." Plus, the brewery does have its place in sci-fi history prior to this film so it works out just fine. Things aren't as simple as "I want a set" and one appears suddenly.

It became a game of where do we cut costs the most...

The engine room became the biggest casuality.

I'm just hoping for it to be somewhat closer to what I at least expected, when Trek XII hits the screens.
 
^Except the Star Trek PADD has storage space for only one file, and you need a whole stack of them to get anythine done. "Sophisticated, clean and tidy" it ain't.

But one could assume that by Star Trek's time that one file the PADD holds, is probably a million (or more) Terabyte's (or Teraquads in Trek slang) of information. So how is that NOT Sophisticated?
Sophisticated and tidy are two very different things. Few devices on Earth are more sophisticated than the Space Shuttle; even fewer things are less sophisticated than its solid rocket boosters. That both of them are equally "neat and tidy" is just a matter of paint and casing.

Even a fountain pen looks neat and tidy if you wrap a shiny white casing around it, and even an iPod looks junky and cluttered if you peel the casing off. If you don't need a tidy shiny covering around your engine parts, there's no reason to install it.
 
daveyNY said:
^Except the Star Trek PADD has storage space for only one file, and you need a whole stack of them to get anythine done. "Sophisticated, clean and tidy" it ain't.

But one could assume that by Star Trek's time that one file the PADD holds, is probably a million (or more) Terabyte's (or Teraquads in Trek slang) of information. So how is that NOT Sophisticated?

Except we're always shown one Trek PADD = one book. I seriously doubt Jake and Nog were gonna read several terrabytes of data for homework when they were carrying around and sorting through stacks of the things.

I used to laugh at it back when the shows were first run, the way directors never realized that carrying stacks of books won't translate to the tech of the future.
 
It became a game of where do we cut costs the most...

The engine room became the biggest casuality.
Yep. And a set that no doubt would have cost in the millions too. Judging by the concepts this set would have been the most involved and meticulous of any of the Trek engineering sets.

I'm just hoping for it to be somewhat closer to what I at least expected, when Trek XII hits the screens.
That would be nice.
 
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