I'll admit, I'm no engineer but that design is sexy.
Star Trek XI Enterprise Engineering set?
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I guess that ST XII's Engineering set, if that film will have one, could be anything; they could just use the excuse that in XI, the set wasn't yet completed (the ship *was* brand new after all).
I think you have given the writers of Star Trek XII the answer.
I've said it before on another thread: Their excuse is to say that the Engineering section wasn't completed yet because Enterprise was rushed into action.
The next movie needs lots of shipboard scenes in lots of different areas. Like crew quarters, briefing rooms, rec rooms, more of sickbay, a proper shuttlebay. We need to see the Captain's quarters while Kirk "interviews" yeoman candidates.
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It doesn't look unfinished. How would you finish it other than putting up some walls? It looks like a 20th century brewery. It doesn't look like it's part of the ship at all.
Next movie, build a proper engineering set, tone down the white corridors and turbo, get rid of 60% of the lights on the bridge and then give us some new sets.
Oh, and straighten those pylons!
Next movie, build a proper engineering set, tone down the white corridors and turbo, get rid of 60% of the lights on the bridge and then give us some new sets.
Oh, and straighten those pylons!
Every time they opened a wall panel in a corridor during TOS, there were pipes behind it. There were also pipes lining the walls the the engine room, which was full of tanks, vats (albeit smaller ones) and the pipe cathedral behind the red mesh fence. It's probable that without the corridors, rooms and most of the decks, inside the engineering hull would look a lot like a smaller version of STXI's brewery.
^^ There ya go!
As for the corridors. Anyone notice that if they painted the curved walls blue it would look just like the "Ugly Betty" set? And the polished black floor should cause alot of slip and fall accidents with all of the running around they did.
As for the corridors. Anyone notice that if they painted the curved walls blue it would look just like the "Ugly Betty" set? And the polished black floor should cause alot of slip and fall accidents with all of the running around they did.
It looked like a giant industrial facility dedicated to the production of massive amounts of beer.
It was pretty much due to lack of budget, expect to see something closer tot he original production design paintings:
Now that's more like it, Mr. Wayne.
Especially the first pic, looks similar to the TMP engine room. But yeah, that brewery was soooooooooo much better. Budget restrictions, my ass.
Enterprise Engineering set
I feel these threads discussed this pretty exhaustively.
New sets onboard ship. Scrap the brewery! 120 replies
Will reused sets/props help with the next flick's budget? 27 replies
A Nightmare in the Engineering Brewery
14 replies
Sorry, but the NuEnt Engineering Hull is Phail 94 replies
Love the movie, hate engineering 50 replies
What about bloody engineering? 73 replies
though thanks newtype_alpha for that photo of real world 21st Century technology location.
I feel these threads discussed this pretty exhaustively.
New sets onboard ship. Scrap the brewery! 120 replies
Will reused sets/props help with the next flick's budget? 27 replies
A Nightmare in the Engineering Brewery
14 replies
Sorry, but the NuEnt Engineering Hull is Phail 94 replies
Love the movie, hate engineering 50 replies
What about bloody engineering? 73 replies
though thanks newtype_alpha for that photo of real world 21st Century technology location.
Posting photographs of a real world fusion reactor that looks like a mess is pointless. Why? Fusion technology is EXPERIMENTAL. Of course it looks like a mess because every bit needs to be accessed easily and constantly. When it runs on a regular schedule, it will look much cleaner. And were talking about Star Trek here. Zephram Cochrane built a warp capable ship fitting into a rocket, with artificial gravity and all sorts. Star Trek technology is clean and tidy and functionality is hidden inside the form. It's like the difference between a current BMW motor and one from the year 1900. Between an iPhone and the earliest cellphone.
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Odd that you mention an iPhone as I was just thinking of the Personal Access Display Device (P.A.D.D.) and the Apple iPad circa 2010.
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Then you should get the idea how much more sophisticated, cleaner and tidier 23rd century technology should be.
Then you should get the idea how much more sophisticated, cleaner and tidier 23rd century technology should be.
^Except the Star Trek PADD has storage space for only one file, and you need a whole stack of them to get anythine done. "Sophisticated, clean and tidy" it ain't.
Because your logic is faulty.
The PADD existed a long time before the iPad, and it was sophisticated, clean and tidy. Now the iPad is there, and Trek's fictional technology needs to catch up to become again sophisticated, clean and tidy. Just like they have digital and holographic displays on the bridge, when there were still paper printers in TOS.Engineering didn't bother me.
And you're REALLY going to sit there an bullshit me by pretending you intuitively know what a brewery actually looks like?
What difference does that make? Fission reactors don't look all that different, especially on naval vessels.
At least, it used to be. There's no logical reason why it HAS to, though.
The giant x-shaped yellow pilars in the shuttlebay (the first area of the new ship you see) were awesome. It gave you a real sense that this new ship was sturdy and tough, not some delicate thing built inside a clean room.
The space with the huge metal tanks Pike, Spock, et al walk through before the space jump sequence was also great.
Really my only problem with the engineering set was in one shot. It's a fleeting moment during the chases sequence before Kirk and Scotty are caught. As the camera whips around them you see way too much of the area they're running through. While I don't have a problem with engineering looking the way it does, I feel that any wide shot should have some CGI to it. All I need is a subtle tweak to architecture in the background that suggests where we're in a space ship with a curved hull (for instance).
The space with the huge metal tanks Pike, Spock, et al walk through before the space jump sequence was also great.
Really my only problem with the engineering set was in one shot. It's a fleeting moment during the chases sequence before Kirk and Scotty are caught. As the camera whips around them you see way too much of the area they're running through. While I don't have a problem with engineering looking the way it does, I feel that any wide shot should have some CGI to it. All I need is a subtle tweak to architecture in the background that suggests where we're in a space ship with a curved hull (for instance).
