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Star Trek Website: Interview with Kristen Beyer

Pardon, but my post has more to do with the KJ controversy and its implications, and it wasn't about "poor me." My disappointment with the absence of KJ is actually just a symptom of a larger problem that has existed for a long time at PB.

I don't think many of the PB writers were familiar with the Voyager characters when they wrote about the series, at least not as familiar as they should have been. They tended to use some sort of PB "template" for the characters rather than the ones we saw on screen--and I'm talking about all of the characters here. It seems to me that writing a Voyager novel would require a viewing of all 170 episodes, but I doubt very much that that happened or that the writers "refreshed their memories" as they probably should have done.

I read all of the novels issued during the series and found them lacking in the characterizations and in the way they seemed to be the same plot over and over again--a real lack of imagination. Even ten years later, when the short stories in "Distant Shores" came out, I found the character templates still very much in use--angry B'Elanna, goofy Neelix, playful Paris, stern Janeway, remote Seven of Nine, etc. The humor that made Voyager fun to watch never came through in the novels, and the "humanity" of the characters was ignored.

My hope was that with this relaunch they would make the Voyager novels different from those for the other series, since we have plenty of that to go around. Instead, Voyager was pulled right into that "universe," so much so that the characters were used a great deal in TNG novels.

If you are tired of reading my posts, block me. But please realize that I have a right to speak my mind, as do you. ;)
 
^ Bummer. I actually really liked "Distant Shores." I didn't find the characterizations off at all, although the individual author's voices peeked through a few times in some of the stories. I really liked the Heather Jarman story - of course, I liked her writing back before she was cool, too. ;)

The only VOY story that really irritated me was that one in "Infinity's Prism" or whatever (BD was TNG! ;)) The idea behind the story was massively cool, but the author's whining about the show was pretty damn obvious on every single page. It was also slightly... eh. Chakotay turns into some amazing politician while Janeway is implied as being as crazy as that bad guy and then the author knocks her up via Chakotay in the ending just to show her her proper place. Blegh. Published babyfic. :barf2: I regret dropping money on that one! Well, okay. I regret dropping money for a new copy. The city ship stuff and the Doc's story were pretty neat.

FC was written pretty well, though. And I do need to give bonus points for getting a lady back in command, even if I'm not really interested in spending money to find out how her adventures pan out.

Still waiting on Janeway/Eden fanfic!!!
 
I liked "Distant Shores" and bought a bunch to share with my underfunded friends, even though I thought the characters were a bit simplified. The collection was better than nothing. And, best of all, the entire crew was included.
 
No offence but it gets irritating when posts keep saying "but what about me? What about me? They're doing this just to offend me!" If posters who posted posts like posts like that listened to the podcast then they'd have heard how Beyer said "We didn't do it to annoy the fans, we did it because we wanted to tell this story.

I'm glad that post will be the last i hear complaining about Janeway's death, because I'm fed up with those posts.

I kept it about the post.

Well it's obvious that you are saying "what about me" too. I have no problem with you liking the stories as they are, but there are a lot of people that would buy stories if they were about Janeway.

Personally I want character driven stories that are something more than fighting one war after another. And as far as how Janeway has been treated, Sisko hasn't been treated any better, nor has Kira, or even Erika Hernandez. While I am sorry you don't see a wrong here, I will continue to voice my concerns, and tell people what I want.

Every opinion I have heard so far has the echo of "what about me" and there is nothing wrong with that at all. You need a better argument.

The writers may want to tell this story, but we don't want to hear it and there is nothing wrong with that opinion either.

And I am pretty fed up with your kind of posts too.

Brit
 
I peruse the "Literature" forum now and then, and a lot of people are unhappy with the collective TNG/DS9/VOY relaunch. Maybe it's time to hit the reset button?
 
I'm reading Golden's Dark Matter trilogy atm. I keep thinking, wow Golden must have watched a whole lot of VOY between this and her relaunch books because the characterizations are far better in the relaunch.

I think a lot of people are tired of the endless war war, BIGGER WAR, mysterious enemies and more war theme that relaunch has pitched all of the 3 series into. I miss smaller stories, like KRAD's The Art of the Impossible. remember the Section 31 books? They varied in quality but they were interesting, fun and did not involve "the future of the entire galaxy is at stake" scenarios. ;The best Treklit I've read was the Terok Nor trilogy.

I don't care enough about any of this to boycott or write letters though, I know some people are happy with it. I just want Kathryn Janeway back and if there isn't anybody who feels they can write a book about a strong female captain then give her a desk job until the times change at PB and they decide to do it.
 
I don't care enough about any of this to boycott or write letters though, I know some people are happy with it. I just want Kathryn Janeway back and if there isn't anybody who feels they can write a book about a strong female captain then give her a desk job until the times change at PB and they decide to do it.

And I totally agree with this teacake, not everyone that wants Janeway back wants to write a letter, or even needs to. The only thing I would ask is that anyone who wants her back to join our facebook group.

Thanks
Brit
 
I peruse the "Literature" forum now and then, and a lot of people are unhappy with the collective TNG/DS9/VOY relaunch. Maybe it's time to hit the reset button?[/QUOTE]


"Crisis On Infinite Universes" :bolian:

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(Did I just date myself? :lol: )
 
I recently read a Babylon 5 trilogy (the psi-corp one) and it was SO MUCH BETTER than 95% of Treklit I started seriously questioning my commitment to reading Treklit.

I know what you mean. I recently read "Dune" for the first time. I used to love TrekLit but books like "Dune" are so much better. At this point I'd read a well-done novel with Janeway back but otherwise there's a lot of really good books out there to be read. :)
 
I recently read a Babylon 5 trilogy (the psi-corp one) and it was SO MUCH BETTER than 95% of Treklit I started seriously questioning my commitment to reading Treklit.

I know what you mean. I recently read "Dune" for the first time. I used to love TrekLit but books like "Dune" are so much better. At this point I'd read a well-done novel with Janeway back but otherwise there's a lot of really good books out there to be read. :)

That's what it is coming down to for a lot of readers. They don't like the direction the relaunches have taken, and they miss the books that continue to explore the series as it appeared on TV. I went through many old books today and got rid of all of the TNG and DS9 novels that were boxed up in the basement. Much to my surprise, many of the same authors are still writing Trek. No wonder they are tired of writing the same old thing. Maybe it's time to put some of them out to pasture and bring in people who are still enthusiastic about the series. ;)

Edited to say: Love Dune and read all the novels several years ago. :)
 
I recently read a Babylon 5 trilogy (the psi-corp one) and it was SO MUCH BETTER than 95% of Treklit I started seriously questioning my commitment to reading Treklit.

I know what you mean. I recently read "Dune" for the first time. I used to love TrekLit but books like "Dune" are so much better. At this point I'd read a well-done novel with Janeway back but otherwise there's a lot of really good books out there to be read. :)

That's funny because I've been looking for a second hand copy of Dune in the last few weeks! I read it quite a few times as a teenager but haven't read it since and suddenly got a hankering to reread.
 
^ My boyfriend and I were in Barnes and Noble and he says "I'm getting you this because it's my favorite sci-fi and I can't believe you haven't read it!"

Hmm, I wonder what else I should tell him I haven't read? ;)
 
I haven't read a new SF-book in years. The last new Star Trek book I read was "String Theory" book 3. As for other SF-books, "Dune" was OK, I read it a couple of years ago but there are too many of those books with a gloom-and-doom scenario which I simply can't stand. Too much of the 21th century mentality and I have more than enough of the daily doom-and-gloom scenarios in this reality, thank you.

Fortunately there are a lot of interesting books out there so I do have a lot to read and if I doo feel for a Star Trek book, then I can always re-read some of the fantastic Voyager books from seasons 1-3. :bolian:
 
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