Star Trek vs Star Wars

[Gepard]

It's disghusting, but it's like an Undeniable Truth Of Life: Star Wars Fans almost invariably have a holier-than-thou attitude towards Trekkers/Trekkies.

It's not like that's unique to their side, judging by the posts I've seen on the subject around here. "Star Wars is for Babies" anyone?

 

[Greg Cox]

^Depends on who you're talking to, Mr. Cox.

I would LOVE to Live And Let Live, but the War-Heads go outta their way to hate on Trek.

It's disghusting, but it's like an Undeniable Truth Of Life: Star Wars Fans almost invariably have a holier-than-thou attitude towards Trekkers/Trekkies.

Have you read GEEKTASTIC? It's an anthology of short stories about fandom. There's a great story about Klingon fan who hooks up with a Jedi fan . . . much to their mutual consternation. It's a "Romeo and Juliet" for our times . . . .

 

[steve1961]

In Other words Star Wars is Liberal. Trek is somewhat conservative. Even Spock would agree to that.

 

[number6]

In Other words Star Wars is Liberal. Trek is somewhat conservative. Even Spock would agree to that.

I wouldn't agree with that.
That's an outrageous analogy.

 

[Gepard]

^^Uh...damn. Wow.

 

[KirkSpockTOSFan]

the difference is this: star wars is fantasy, star trek is science fiction. some people will never understand that

I absoutly agree! I went to a Star Trek convetion last year in Las Vegas and I know one person from I think TrekCast or some one of the big top people behind Star Trek (creatior,writer producer etc) said the very same thing as you did. It was at a special screening of the movie Star Trek. They showed the movie on one of the days of the convetion at theater nearby the convetion, invited fans to see the movie one last time. Anyways I think Trek Cast and Trek Movie, held the special event. And I remmber one of those people stated the very same thing you said at the screening of the movie/convetion. He said that people offten compare Star Trek to Star Wars, and stated that they are not alike as Star Wars is a fantasy, Star Trek is not a fantasy its science fiction. And I absoutly agree, I dont why people always say they are like because they are not.

 

[Skywalker]

I would LOVE to Live And Let Live, but the War-Heads go outta their way to hate on Trek.

Yeah, we Warsies sure do hate Trek.

I've seen more anti-SW posters here on TrekBBS than I ever saw anti-ST posters on comparably sized SW-themed boards, such as the Jedi Council Forums at TheForce.net. It must be some sort of inherent persecution complex.

And Star Wars has never been sci-fi. It's always been a fantasy story that just happened to be set in a place with spaceships and laser guns. Star Trek has always leaned more towards science fiction in its storytelling, but it too relies on a healthy dose of fantasy.

 

[Misfit Toy]

In Other words Star Wars is Liberal. Trek is somewhat conservative. Even Spock would agree to that.

In your opinion. Others disagree. You might want to rethink the level of antagonism you're putting into this thread.

 

[steve1961]

Ill put it this way,, If a Romulan ship aproaches the Enterprise the 1st thing in Picard head is Attack! But Kirk would ask Spock before doing anything.

 

[number6]

Ill put it this way,, If a Romulan ship aproaches the Enterprise the 1st thing in Picard head is Attack! But Kirk would ask Spock before doing anything.

No the first thing Picard would do is call a staff meeting and spend half an episode discussing how to proceed.

Kirk was more prone to action, even if he did consult with Spock.

 

[abaldwin360]

I like them both for different reasons.

Star Trek is mostly pure Sci Fi.

Star Wars is fantasy in a Sci Fi setting.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Ill put it this way,, If a Romulan ship aproaches the Enterprise the 1st thing in Picard head is Attack! But Kirk would ask Spock before doing anything.

No the first thing Picard would do is call a staff meeting and spend half an episode discussing how to proceed.

Kirk was more prone to action, even if he did consult with Spock.

I don't think either is necessarily accurate, but whatever.

 

[Kegg]

Star Trek, of course. But go to a Star Wars forum and you'll get the other answer. Go to a non-Trek or Wars forum and it'll vary, but typically in my experience the line will fall Wars way... unless you've got a certain kind of geek.

One of the things I've noticed about my generation IS:

Whenever I bring up Star Wars, it's always they like it, they can connect with that, it's, "Hey, I like Star Wars too, you seen Clone Wars, isn't that AWESOME," etc.

What generation is that?

I wasn't aware the Clone Wars was that popular at all, except probably with children (I wouldn't know - I do rather like it, though.)

 

[DataPheonix]

I may be new here, but that doesn't mean that I am clueless! I get that fact that everyone seems to feel a sense of ownership of either Star Trek or Star Wars. However I would like to break this thing down to a completely different level that maybe no one thought of before: This whole debate is as old as philosophical thought itself! If you look at it, Star Trek is based on SCIENCE fiction, where Star Wars is based more on RELIGION! Almost everything in Star Trek has a somewhat reasonable, if a little fudged, basis in modern physics and quantum mechanics. Star Wars, while it does have ships and hyper-drive, has it's STORY based on a mystical Force that influences and guides it's followers.

So the debate is now more Science versus Religion... no wonder there is sooo much strife over this thing!

 

[The Castellan]

Only SW I liked was the original. Empire I get bored with so fast, and the others are ehhh.

 

[Trek Survivor]

The Original Poster needs to be slapped with a big wet fish for his list of rubbish.

"Trek has the Enterprise... Wars has an X-Wing".

Um, so we're comparing the best of Trek with the worst of Wars are we? Wouldn't it be fairer (though ultimately redundant - they're so completely different as to make any comparison meaningless) to compare the best of both? e.g. Enterprise and the Milennium Falcon?

It's like saying "Trek had Picard, Wars had Jar Jar Binks"...well yes, SW did have Jar Jar, but they also had a lot more loved and well-written characters...

I have NEVER understood this obsession some fanboyz have with pitting these two franchises against each other. Not only are the universes and the creative intent completely different, they operate in (MOSTLY!) completey different mediums. Whatever you think of the Trek movies, the reality is Trek works best as an ongoing TV series. It was DESIGNED to be an ongoing, continuing series.

Star Wars was solely designed as movies (and works best when kept there!) - the characters didn't need to be as rounded and complex/involving because they were there to tell a specific story. And they did - very well.

It's part of the reason why the Star Wars novels and "EU" just is plain awful... those characters were never designed to be ongoing. When you stretch 'em out to a 30-40 year time span, the cracks start to show.

Trek and Wars are both just fine. When they try and BE/imitate each other, that's when both start to look silly.

 

[SilentP]

Each have their own good and bad points, and I enjoy both for what they are. They are not in competition for my attentions and fan...ing? (The word I need eludes me)

 

[Greg Cox]

In Other words Star Wars is Liberal. Trek is somewhat conservative. Even Spock would agree to that.

I don't think that's true at at. Heck, the Federation is a secular humanist socialist utopia. And the fourth movie was about saving the whales, for pete's sake!

 

[Mach5]

Star Wars > Star Trek

That is the order of things...

 

[Rush Limborg]

Star Trek, of course. But go to a Star Wars forum and you'll get the other answer. Go to a non-Trek or Wars forum and it'll vary, but typically in my experience the line will fall Wars way... unless you've got a certain kind of geek.

One of the things I've noticed about my generation IS:

Whenever I bring up Star Wars, it's always they like it, they can connect with that, it's, "Hey, I like Star Wars too, you seen Clone Wars, isn't that AWESOME," etc.

What generation is that?

I wasn't aware the Clone Wars was that popular at all, except probably with children (I wouldn't know - I do rather like it, though.)

Generation Y, brother. Generation Y....