Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by LtChange, May 26, 2014.
Love the character, no respect for the actor?
I wouldn't say that. I love the character and understand the actor (actress in this case? ) has to eat.
I don't blame her at all for anything she might say pro-movie. I just don't take it into consideration because the likelihood is that it's a payed advertising courtesy of nuTrek's marketing team.
I remember Walter Koenig praising his role in Generations (even if he looked extremely confused about what to say on camera).
The same for Jonathan Frakes praising Nemesis and Tom Hardy's portrayal of Shinzon.
I can't blame any of them for praising stuff you can tell they don't agree with, they do need to eat.
I hate the idea of yet another reboot of a Trek franchise.
See, as I see it, TNG was essentially a recycle of a resurgence of TOS. It did become its own animal, but really, it was in a way, a soft reboot of TOS, using different characters yet similar archetypes, set 78 years later. It respected continuity of TOS, but set far enough in the future to create its own. Well, it was a hit, and 2 spin offs set in the same era, 4 TNG movies, and Enterprise were the result. But geeze, why a reboot of TNG? At least with TOS they waited until 2 cast members died. Theoretically, another TNG movie with the original crew could still be made, if it were desired.
Personally, besides 1-2 more Abramsverse Trek movies (as horrible as I thought STID was, I still think Abrams is 1-1 for the two movies, as Star Trek 2009 kicked ass, and I am still willing to see a Star Trek 3, and hopes he breaks the tie in the favor of awesome) I am all for a new Trek movie or series, or even a mini-series. But there are ONLY two scenarios that interest me, and I would actually like to see BOTH done:
1. a limited miniseries with the intent to properly send off the Enterprise series. Maybe 3-5 2 hour episodes, with the Enterprise NX01 during and shortly after the Earth Romulan war. Basically truncate what good ideas a lot of people wanted to see in an Enterprise season 5 and do it.
2. A completely new Star trek series with new characters and time period. I am thinking late 25th or beyond. Something done like TNG did...respect continuity, but only refer to it as history or legend. Whether its prime universe or abramsverse, I don't care...just set it far enough in the future where it really doesn't matter, and neither do the events from any incarnation of Trek. Maybe go Game of Thrones style, and have a more epic, more serial approach, with multiple stories with multiple sets of characters going on simultaneously in different parts of the galaxy..maybe 1 0r 2 groups on multiple ships, maybe a space station group, maybe a group on Earth, and maybe even another group of a race like Klingons or Romulans could be a focus. Point is, I think Game of Thrones proves you can have a large cast with multiple settings and multiple groups of characters, in which you can jump from one setting to the next, as long as you have one large, unifying plot to tie them all together.
A thought that occurred to me recently, if a TNG reboot ever happens, should Picard be played by a French actor?
And Data and Worf should be played by an android and a Klingon. Mot might be harder to cast, since there aren't many Bolians in Hollywood.
Don't the Bolians perform in Las Vegas?
If they do a reboot they ought to address the fact that all the continuing characters were defined in heteronormative terms. We understand better now that this is an unrealistic portrayal of people.
I'd be all for that. How do you think it would/should be done? With new LGBT supporting characters, or one of the regular main character from the original series revealed to LGBT?
I always kind of hated how heteronormative Data was in his exploration of humanity, but I guess it makes some sense that he was programmed that way by Soong, who was egocentric enough to want Data to reflect his own personality and sexuality.
Doesn't matter as long as it's a solid character that isn't written in a juvenile manner.
For the record, I always thought Geordi was a robosexual! Explains why he always had trouble with the ladies.
So all that time Geordi spent working on Data was personal? That thought had crossed my mind too.
A TNG reboot would have Samuel L. Jackson as Picard. "I've had it with these Borg on my ship!"
If (gods forbid) they did go and do a TNG reboot, I had wanted to see a female Data (played by a Summer Glau) with a gay Riker, but now a robsexual Data/Geordi relationship would definitely be worth watching. In the remake of "Naked Now", Data has his moment with Tasha Yar but discovers that the experience was ultimately unfulfilling and decides to explore sexuality in his quest to be human
I can't speak for anyone else, but I would LOVE to see that!!!!!
It ought to be a core member of the existing group. Rebooting means it can be anyone, ala nuBSG. Heck, make it Riker or Data.
IMO, making it Data misses the point (assuming he's the only LGBT being in the main crew). It needs to be a flesh-and-blood human being to count as inclusive. I nominate Jean-Luc himself. Data could be pansexual, though. Probably is.
TNG won't get a reboot because, despite anything else, at it's core Star Trek is based off of the Original Series. Hence why if there was a reboot, it would always be based off the Original Series, just as it was. TNG is a sequel series. It and the entire franchise exists in terms of the original. To do a remake is awkward and too abstract in narrative terms.
I hope they don't try to redo TNG, if for no other reason than to avoid the hardcore fan backlash when it isn't what they wanted it to be. And make no mistake, it wouldn't be.
What I'm already seeing in this thread would make TNG into Star Trek: The Love Boat.
If we're going to bring in narrative structure, for the most part the TNG we had works perfectly fine as a TOS reboot.
It's obvious, but the only reason TNG would be rebooted is if it had the potential to be successful. The most natural way for it to be successful would be for its crew to be interesting. A diverse crew not derivative of the TOS crew and displaying sophisticated relationships might be one way it could accomplish that.
nuBSG was highly successful despite the vocal objections of the hardcore fanbase of the original. The next Trek series needs a larger audience than existing hardcore fans to be successful. It's doubtful that all the existing fans would dislike it anyway, although if experience is any guide some vocal minority will hate it, no matter what.
TNG's primary strength -- conspicuously wasted on the big screen -- was character development and relationships. (Better female characters wouldn't go amiss in another attempt, though...)
So... just like everything ever since TOS season 3 in 1969.
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