Star Trek: The Next Generation

[All Seeing Eye]

Star Trek: The Next Generation (New Timeline)

Even if you've not seen the Trek XI movie yet you'll know that it's supposed to be a new timeline, Abrams etc has said so before the movie even came out.

So now we're in a different timeline we don't have to have the same Enterprises, we don't even have to have Picard, as far as the new timeline is concerned he doesn't even have to be born.

We've got a different design 1701 for the movie so why not a different designed 1701-D?

I propose a new Star Trek: The Next Generation series based onboard a new timeline Ent-D and a new timeline crew.

 

[NCC-1701-B]

I think this needs a spoiler tag in the title.

I may work on a redesigned enterprise d, this could be cool though!

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I think this needs a spoiler tag in the title.

I would have thought everyone knows the timeline is not the same. I'm not saying what happens in the movie.

Anyway, I like the idea that Picards parents might still have a son and call him Jean Luc but the guy being born is not from the same sperm and egg and is therefore a different person. It's possible they may join starfleet too and become a captain but the timeline is altered so much that the picard from the original timeline cannot possibly be born and instead someone else is born and given the same name and grows up in the same family.

So the new Ent-D could have a captain Picard but they're a different person so we can have a picard and not even need Patrick Stewart.

Of course we don't even need a Picard, the capt of the new Ent-D could be someone completely different but if we wanted a Picard it's possible.

 

[urbandk]

I'd like an Ent-C series.

 

[adamisme]

it would be interesting to see a TNG series where it was the same characters e.g. Jean Luc Picard, Will Riker, but subtly different to what we've seen

 

[xman]

We don't need an Enterprise-D. Our new Enterprise will likely not suffer the same fate as it's previous incarnation and there won't even be an Enterprise-A. You're not thinking outside the old box yet.

X

 

[All Seeing Eye]

We don't need an Enterprise-D. Our new Enterprise will likely not suffer the same fate as it's previous incarnation and there won't even be an Enterprise-A. You're not thinking outside the old box yet.

X

There will always be an Entperise-D, starships don't last forever, even if they're not destroyed they're decommissioned and a newer ship is commissioned in its place. So it's not a question of will there be an Ent-D but the question is when and what year will it be commisioned.

 

[AviTrek]

To quote Q, "Nothing you do here will cause the Federation to collapse or galaxies to explode. To be blunt, you're not that important."

There is no reason to assume any changes made to the TOS timeline will fundamentally change the TNG timeline. Everyone on the ENT-D should still be born and the ship should still have the same mission.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

There is no reason to assume any changes made to the TOS timeline will fundamentally change the TNG timeline. Everyone on the ENT-D should still be born and the ship should still have the same mission.

You honestly think that with all the changes to the timeline that the same sperm and egg that created each Ent-D crew will come together at the exact same time again?

You wanna know the odds? Infinity to 1

 

[barnaclelapse]

Star Trek: The Next Generation (New Timeline)

Even if you've not seen the Trek XI movie yet you'll know that it's supposed to be a new timeline, Abrams etc has said so before the movie even came out.

So now we're in a different timeline we don't have to have the same Enterprises, we don't even have to have Picard, as far as the new timeline is concerned he doesn't even have to be born.

We've got a different design 1701 for the movie so why not a different designed 1701-D?

I propose a new Star Trek: The Next Generation series based onboard a new timeline Ent-D and a new timeline crew.

Honestly, thanks, but no thanks. If they want to visit TNG, fine, go back the original timeline, but just repeat that same timeline but with slight variations.

 

[barnaclelapse]

There is no reason to assume any changes made to the TOS timeline will fundamentally change the TNG timeline. Everyone on the ENT-D should still be born and the ship should still have the same mission.

You honestly think that with all the changes to the timeline that the same sperm and egg that created each Ent-D crew will come together at the exact same time again?

You wanna know the odds? Infinity to 1

I happen to like those odds, personally.

 

[AviTrek]

There is no reason to assume any changes made to the TOS timeline will fundamentally change the TNG timeline. Everyone on the ENT-D should still be born and the ship should still have the same mission.

You honestly think that with all the changes to the timeline that the same sperm and egg that created each Ent-D crew will come together at the exact same time again?

You wanna know the odds? Infinity to 1

People's lives may be different, they may have some different experiences. But as long as their parents are alive and living under similar circumstances I'm not sure why they wouldn't be born.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

There is no reason to assume any changes made to the TOS timeline will fundamentally change the TNG timeline. Everyone on the ENT-D should still be born and the ship should still have the same mission.

You honestly think that with all the changes to the timeline that the same sperm and egg that created each Ent-D crew will come together at the exact same time again?

You wanna know the odds? Infinity to 1

People's lives may be different, they may have some different experiences. But as long as their parents are alive and living under similar circumstances I'm not sure why they wouldn't be born.

Even just the slightest of changes with one of Picards ancestors or parents would prevent Picards birth. Just eating something differently one of the days would alter the bodies metabolism and alter what sperm is created, in what quantity and when.
The fact Earth got hit with a huge drill weapon no doubt altered what people were doing that day, instead of having sex maybe they sat and watched the news or went to the scene of the attack thus altering when and where they have sex years on the future.

Nothing more than common sense is required to realise this.

No doubt a Jean Luc Picard will be born, but born from a different egg and a different sperm, they would not be the same Jean Luc Picard. The odds of the exact correct sperm and egg coming together under such a drastic timeline alteration is impossible.

 

[Islander]

If we're tlaking trickly science, the butterfly effects defines that it is indeed unlikely.

However, the main theme of the new movie is destiny. Regardless of changes in timeline, the crew was meant to be together, Kirk was meant to be Captain...

Since all possibilities exists within their individual timelines, it is then more likely to occur.

Ultimately, Paramount will do whatever they want if it makes money, not sense.

 

[Lyon_Wonder]

We don't need an Enterprise-D. Our new Enterprise will likely not suffer the same fate as it's previous incarnation and there won't even be an Enterprise-A. You're not thinking outside the old box yet.

X

The original 1701 Enterprise in the Prime Timeline lasted 40 years before Kirk sacrificed it in TSFS. Hopefully the Abramsverse Enterprise will last as long, and not end like the E-D only several years after it’s commissioning.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

The original 1701 Enterprise in the Prime Timeline lasted 40 years before Kirk sacrificed it in TSFS.

Are you forgetting the refit? technically a whole new ship, so the refit didn't last very long neither.

 

[Falcor5]

it would be interesting to see a TNG series where it was the same characters e.g. Jean Luc Picard, Will Riker, but subtly different to what we've seen

The TNG episode Tapestry comes to mind. Same characters in different roles. I think Riker was the Captain and of course Picard was a low ranking science officer.

 

[bigdaddy]

I'd like an Ent-C series.

I'd like that too, I think it was the coolest looking Enterprise ship.

 

[Alpha Romeo]

There is no reason to assume any changes made to the TOS timeline will fundamentally change the TNG timeline. Everyone on the ENT-D should still be born and the ship should still have the same mission.

You honestly think that with all the changes to the timeline that the same sperm and egg that created each Ent-D crew will come together at the exact same time again?

You wanna know the odds? Infinity to 1

How would you know the odds? How do you know what will happen and won't?

 

[Theodore Jay Miller]

You honestly think that with all the changes to the timeline that the same sperm and egg that created each Ent-D crew will come together at the exact same time again?

You wanna know the odds? Infinity to 1

Though there may be some kind of force in the Trek universe that causes the same people to be born despite temporal changes.

Consider the Mirror Universe. We know events have been significantly different between the prime universe and the mirror universe at least as far back as the time of Zefram Cochrane. Yet after 100 years there was still a Jonathan Archer, after 200 years a James Kirk, and after 300 years a Benjamin Sisko.

So the same phenomenon responsible for that may mean that 100 years after the events of the new movie, there will still be a Jean-Luc Picard.