That is a good job. I just wanna know what happened to those two guys who helped Kirk on with his spacesuit. They go into the airlock with him for some reason and never emerge. Are they dead on the deck behind him?
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That is a good job. I just wanna know what happened to those two guys who helped Kirk on with his spacesuit. They go into the airlock with him for some reason and never emerge. Are they dead on the deck behind him?
So... think they'll do it?
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I wouldn't bet a whole paycheck on it, but probably.
At the time it was being made, he said it would take 20 rotoscope artists two weeks to get that kind of a shot done. 10 years ago with the new hardware he had he thought he could do it himself in half the time. Imagine what the whole team could do with today's technology with eight months.
I'm betting that check.
So we've reached a little bit of a consensus on the officers Lounge scene. Any other thoughts on other adjustments that might be made to the director's Edition that they would feel comfortable in making in the absence of Robert Wise?
They also stated they were looking for a reaction shot from Decker when Ilia was healing Chekov -- so if they find that I'm sure they'll put that in.
And it was said they found the scene of Ilia probe and Decker in engineering but could not find the audio for it. So they might as well include that in the deleted scenes even without the audio just to give the fans a look at it. And the security guards on the bridge during the light probe in the deleted scenes.
They also stated they were looking for a reaction shot from Decker when Ilia was healing Chekov -- so if they find that I'm sure they'll put that in.
And it was said they found the scene of Ilia probe and Decker in engineering but could not find the audio for it. So they might as well include that in the deleted scenes even without the audio just to give the fans a look at it. And the security guards on the bridge during the light probe in the deleted scenes.
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That is a good job. I just wanna know what happened to those two guys who helped Kirk on with his spacesuit. They go into the airlock with him for some reason and never emerge. Are they dead on the deck behind him?
TAS atmospheric belts?
I think there are a lot of cool little things they could do with this new DE release, but I'm concerned that they are under the gun from a time perspective. Also- I'm concerned that if they change things again, this time without Wise's involvement, they won't be able to claim it as "The Director's intended vision...." So, I'm not optimistic we'll see much other than a remaster of the footage that was in the 2001 release, and the upgraded CGI.
I hope I'm wrong....!
I hope I'm wrong....!
They have already started and release year is 2022.
Oh ye of little faith.
The DE Team members have all their notes. They could actually pretend that everything was Wise's idea and we would be none the wiser. But the whole reason they wanted to do a DE in the first place was so that it would be as close as possible to what Wise would have achieved had he not had to send the work print to the 1979 premiere.
Ultimately these guys are the custodians of the film now, so they need to be able to make decisions where appropriate. I suspect it’ll be 99% the same as the DVD version, but we will likely see some tweaks where they weren’t able to quite achieve what was intended last time.
I’m quite interested in the sound mix, because presumably there will be a new Atmos track. One thing I didn’t really like was the TOS bridge sounds used in the background, because they don’t sound like this version of the Enterprise to me. I’d rather have the sounds used in TWOK/TSFS. But I’m not going to lose sleep over it.
I’m quite interested in the sound mix, because presumably there will be a new Atmos track. One thing I didn’t really like was the TOS bridge sounds used in the background, because they don’t sound like this version of the Enterprise to me. I’d rather have the sounds used in TWOK/TSFS. But I’m not going to lose sleep over it.
The TOS sounds were fine to me (I think they might've actually been the mix from one of the later movies; it sounds a lot like the Enterprise-B bridge ambience that was a bonus track on the GEN soundtrack). The new red alert klaxon was no good (very digital-sounding), though, and frequently went on too long. I remember contemporaneous interviews about the DE suggesting the fact that the original alarm was so blaring they could only bear to put it on for a few seconds was a bug that they corrected. It'd argue that it's a feature; the new DE alarm just doesn't stop, whereas the original is only on long enough to get your attention. There's a reason pretty much every show has an early episode where the Captain yells to shut off that damned noise during a red alert.
Oddly, the non-red-alert alarms (in engineering, when the transporter craps out, and then later when the ship is struggling against the tractor beam) were much better.
Here's the list of possible tweaks/corrections to the original DE I posted in the Facebook group at Therin's insistence (I mentioned the Officer's Lounge scene and adding the Travel Pod to wide shots of the orbital office in my introduction as things that had already been discussed by the team as things they wanted to do but had to cut for scope). There are also a few other ideas that I was planning to put into my own fan-edit but I felt crossed the line into creative rather than technical feedback, which I'll probably revisit after the 4K DE comes out because they'll have already done a lot of the work I was expecting to when it looked like there would never be a remastered DE.
Oddly, the non-red-alert alarms (in engineering, when the transporter craps out, and then later when the ship is struggling against the tractor beam) were much better.
Here's the list of possible tweaks/corrections to the original DE I posted in the Facebook group at Therin's insistence (I mentioned the Officer's Lounge scene and adding the Travel Pod to wide shots of the orbital office in my introduction as things that had already been discussed by the team as things they wanted to do but had to cut for scope). There are also a few other ideas that I was planning to put into my own fan-edit but I felt crossed the line into creative rather than technical feedback, which I'll probably revisit after the 4K DE comes out because they'll have already done a lot of the work I was expecting to when it looked like there would never be a remastered DE.
They have already started and release year is 2022.
Oh ye of little faith.
I hope you're right. I'm so excited for this release...! I would be COMPLETELY happy with just a remaster of the film and digital elements from the original 2001 release. If they make even further enhancements....that would be even better, but not something I expect. I'm trying to keep my enthusiasm in check!
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It was mostly some different shot designs and tweaks that would be fun for me to make without actually being that different for the movie. For instance, replacing the tiny little Enterprise-shape flying over V'Ger. Replacing the corridor outside engineering with a closed blast-door. A lot of "invisible effects" stuff.
The biggest ones were a different camera move for the V'Ger reveal, sort of a high-speed reversal of the path the Enterprise took earlier, pulling out and rotating until we see the entire craft; replacing the shot of the energy bolts flying over Earth with one from San Francisco, with V'Ger visible in the sky and the bolts streaking out in parallel below it; and, probably the most justifiable one, changing the angle of V'Ger in the added footage before it finally erupts, revealing the Enterprise, looking back at it from angle similar to this instead of a profile, so it aligned with the plane of the shockwave and the direction the Enterprise was facing inside it.
So, you know, spoilers for the fan-edit I'll make if I ever make a CG model of V'Ger.
It was this grand effort that teased me into trying my own version of the memory wall scene. It's really rough but it's SLV quality rough. Hopefully by the time the 4k version comes out the technology will have improved again and I can have another go.
I did include most of the extra dialogue from the SLV in my personal edit plus a tiny bit more dialogue for Rand to try and bring some of her more mischievous side into play.
If they can, I think they will. As a sort of a final "farewell" to Wise, who really wanted the scene to be this way.
One moment I would change is when the Enterprise reaches the front of V'Ger. Before I saw the Director's Edition that would reveal the shape of the V'Ger vessel in it's entirety, I had no idea that shot represented the front of the ship. It also didn't help that we don't see the Enterprise turn around to face the front of the ship before it's pulled in by the tractor beam.
Here's my plan. Instead of seeing the Enterprise come in from the side, we see it come in from above. As it clears the front of the ship, the camera pulls back and pans downward, keeping the Enterprise in view (Even if it's super small) but slowly revealing the front of the V'Ger vessel. It stops when you get the overall shape you would see on the tactical screen later in the film.
Before the probe enters invades the bridge, the Enterprise is still facing away from the V'Ger vessel, so the shot of the probe coming from V'Ger would approach the Enterprise from behind.
Now here's the tricky part. Since we're given a lot of time on the view screen for the 'We've been seized by a tractor beam' moment, let's take advantage of that. Instead of simply looking at the front of the V'Ger vessel during the shot, how about we convey the idea that the tractor beam is turning the Enterprise around to face the front of the ship while it's being pulled it? The view screen will pan around till the center of the V'Ger vessel is shown and stop when it's centered.
This would go a long way at helping convey where everything is.