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News Star Trek: The Motion Picture Director's Cut is being restored in 4K, launching first on Paramount+

I’d imagine it would be pretty simple to do seamless branching with the theatrical cut once all of the footage has been restored. I’m sure they’re going to work with everything they’re able to find, which should hopefully include the TV cut footage.
Given how much they mucked with the soundtrack that seems unlikely.


I am not a fan of the fannish choices they heaped on Wise, and the sometimes dodgy effects choices they made.
 
Has the SLV ever been released in widescreen? I wonder if the 12 minutes (or however long) of additional footage still exists somewhere in the wide aspect ratio.

The closest equivalent project that comes to mind for me is the Superman: The Movie extended cut from a few years ago. They were able to do a hi-def widescreen version that was essentially the same as the long TV version, using a hodgepodge of film reels that were discovered in Warner's archives. But a decent amount of correction/restoration was required to make the end product have some visual consistency, and it's still not perfect.

Kor
I have done my own fan edit, upscaling the SLV outtakes off the DE dvd and incorporating them into a hybrid cut. Not sure if the whole movie is available in widescreen but those outtakes were certainly easy to stitch in. I even used Majel Barret's reaction to Ilia in her quarters from the SLV version since it looks so much better when she reacts to Ilia's words instead of 2 seconds after. It looks fine to me.
 
Given how much they mucked with the soundtrack that seems unlikely.

Firebird said seamless branching of the SLV with the theatrical cut, not the DE. It's already been done for TWOK's BR. Of course, if they were going to do that for TMP, it seems likely it'd be on this initial release, since all the extra scenes are just drop-ins and there's no guarantee the disc release of the new DE will include the theatrical edition (considering the talk that went around when it was first made that the DE superseded the TE and SLV and neither would ever be released again, I doubt it, but, then, the TE was eventually released again, so maybe the DE 4K actually will have some Blade Runner-style edition with every version of the movie that was ever made).

Maybe they'll at least rescan the SLV cuts for the deleted scenes, so those'll be in HD.
 
I wonder, has the seamless branching thing been put to good use on any other Trek release? Or anything else from CBS or Paramount, for that matter?

Kor
 
:beer: Finally, TMP 4K. :luvlove:
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The TMP warp effects must look amazing in 4k
That scene, and the drydock flyby, and the flight through the cloud and along V'Ger, should look great in 3D as well! Perhaps for the 50th they'll do that...

The insertion of the TOS-era shuttlecraft in San Francisco seemed rather gratuitous.

Kor
If 2250s shuttles can happily fly about in 2399, why wouldn't a 2260s shuttle do the same just 10 years later :p
 
The insertion of the TOS-era shuttlecraft in San Francisco seemed rather gratuitous.

Kor
That’s the shot that’s always stuck out like a sore thumb for me. None of the production art ever indicated that open platform on the wall. Hell, the original matte painting that was cut showed the final approach of the air tram at the far end of the terminal, which is why the wall was there in the first place. The money they spent on that shot could have and should have been used elsewhere.
 
So was the Director's Cut never probably completed? I don't think I have ever seen it.
 
I wonder, has the seamless branching thing been put to good use on any other Trek release? Or anything else from CBS or Paramount, for that matter?

Kor
The current Blu-ray of TWOK uses branching to present both cuts of the movie.

The Blu-rays of TOS use branching so you can view the original or remastered effects.

So was the Director's Cut never probably completed? I don't think I have ever seen it.
It was completed in standard definition and released on DVD in 2001.
 
What’s the difference between the DC and the theatrical? I don’t have the DVDs any longer and haven’t seen the DC since it came out.
 
Firebird said seamless branching of the SLV with the theatrical cut, not the DE. It's already been done for TWOK's BR. Of course, if they were going to do that for TMP, it seems likely it'd be on this initial release, since all the extra scenes are just drop-ins and there's no guarantee the disc release of the new DE will include the theatrical edition (considering the talk that went around when it was first made that the DE superseded the TE and SLV and neither would ever be released again, I doubt it, but, then, the TE was eventually released again, so maybe the DE 4K actually will have some Blade Runner-style edition with every version of the movie that was ever made).

Maybe they'll at least rescan the SLV cuts for the deleted scenes, so those'll be in HD.

I think it's doubtful that any effort at seamless branching with the SLV could be seamless. Some of the shots were alternate takes rather than additional scenes / lines - I just spent my lockdown doing this stitching and, while some bits like the Sulu/Ilia scene, or Kirk's briefing, or Kirk/McCoy in sickbay would work as straight inserts, the music tracks for other scenes were not always compatible with the DE. I managed to stitch Kirk's "Oh my god." into the transporter scene just by blending the soundtracks but it was more by luck than judgement. McCoy's "And Another Thing" in Kirk's quarters suffers because the soundtrack of Ilia's exit bleeds across into the DE scene. Uhura's 'tens of thousands' comment has to be blended with the music soundtrack from the V'Ger reveal and this means that Chekov's return to his seat doesn't have a compatible soundtrack.

It would be easy enough for them to re-edit the soundtracks but that seems like a lot more effort than they would likely be prepared to commit, before you get to the incompatible space suits and unfinished special effects.

It would be nice and it definitely is doable for the most part but I can't see them putting that much effort in.
 
I think it's doubtful that any effort at seamless branching with the SLV could be seamless. Some of the shots were alternate takes rather than additional scenes / lines - I just spent my lockdown doing this stitching and, while some bits like the Sulu/Ilia scene, or Kirk's briefing, or Kirk/McCoy in sickbay would work as straight inserts, the music tracks for other scenes were not always compatible with the DE. I managed to stitch Kirk's "Oh my god." into the transporter scene just by blending the soundtracks but it was more by luck than judgement. McCoy's "And Another Thing" in Kirk's quarters suffers because the soundtrack of Ilia's exit bleeds across into the DE scene. Uhura's 'tens of thousands' comment has to be blended with the music soundtrack from the V'Ger reveal and this means that Chekov's return to his seat doesn't have a compatible soundtrack.

It would be easy enough for them to re-edit the soundtracks but that seems like a lot more effort than they would likely be prepared to commit, before you get to the incompatible space suits and unfinished special effects.

It would be nice and it definitely is doable for the most part but I can't see them putting that much effort in.

Again, SLV and the theatrical version on the same disc. Not SLV and the DE. The DE is totally different, you can't use seamless branching between it and any other version of the movie, and no one is suggesting we try, so it's weird people keep saying that the thing no one would try to do is prohibitively difficult.
 
Again, SLV and the theatrical version on the same disc. Not SLV and the DE. The DE is totally different, you can't use seamless branching between it and any other version of the movie, and no one is suggesting we try, so it's weird people keep saying that the thing no one would try to do is prohibitively difficult.
Ah right. I've only seen the theatrical cut at the cinema once so it's harder for me to comment! If the soundtrack is the same throughout then it could be fine. Certainly porting across the SLV soundtrack would likely work.

NB: My fan edit is a mix of the SLV, DE, and my own version of the Memory Wall so it's untrue to say 'no one' would try to do it. 'No one else,' is perhaps more accurate. :-P
 
Given how much they mucked with the soundtrack that seems unlikely.

I am not a fan of the fannish choices they heaped on Wise, and the sometimes dodgy effects choices they made.
Agreed, the sound effects changes in particular are super-fanboyish and take me out of the film a little bit, I prefer the more minimalist sound design of the theatrical cut.

Honestly, except for recording a commentary track and providing some notes to the restoration team, I never got the sense that Wise was really all that involved with the final product.
 
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