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I may have missed it, but havent seen any discussions of The Animated Series on this forum.
Ive just got this on DVD and have watched the first 8 episodes as yet.

Ive enjoyed it so far, but the episodes are very short (23mins or so)

Im a bit at a loss as to why it seems to have a very low profile?
As far as I know its never been shown on TV in the UK.

Is it not highly regarded?
Has anyone else seen it and if so enjoyed it (or not)?
or anything else to say on the topic?


(Sorry if ive missed something obvious, I did try a search)
 
I love TAS! And you're right, it's overlooked for the most part. I think the TOS forum is the place where this topic belongs. But I'm not sure.

BTW, welcome to this board! :bolian:
 
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TAS is usually discussed in the original series forum, where this thread will be sent I'm sure.

TAS is sort of the red headed step child of Star Trek, some love it, me included, and some hate it. Some like to say it's not "real" Star Trek, and it's not canon, but others say that it was Exec produced by Gene Roddenberry, produced by DC Fontana, and starred the original cast so how could it NOT be canon?

If you like the series, be sure to stop by my website, I've got a lot of games, calendars and other cool stuff for fans.
 
I've been watching TAS too through Netflix, and I am enjoying the series much more than I thought I would. I still haven't decided if I like it enough to add them to my perament collection though, but I probably will at some point in the future.

My two favorite episodes so far are the one in which Spock goes through the Guardian of Forever to save his younger self from dying, and the one in which Spock, Uhura and someone else, Sulu I think, get captured by these cat people when trying to deliver this mysterious weapon. That episode actually kept me in suspense the whole time.
 
If you like the series, be sure to stop by my website, I've got a lot of games, calendars and other cool stuff for fans.
What a sneaky way to do a little cross promotion, eh? :p No, your site really deserves the credit. I love it! And I take this opportunity to thank you for it. :bolian:

My two favorite episodes so far are the one in which Spock goes through the Guardian of Forever to save his younger self from dying, and the one in which Spock, Uhura and someone else, Sulu I think, get captured by these cat people when trying to deliver this mysterious weapon. That episode actually kept me in suspense the whole time.
FYI, that's "Yesteryear" and "The Slaver Weapon". Two of the best episodes of TAS.
 
Thanks Belar, glad you liked the site. I've worked hard on it and it's nice to know people enjoy it.
 
I think TAS is great. I bought it when it first hit DVD, after not having seen it since I was a kid. It was a real trip hearing all the original actors doing thier thing; Minus Chekov of course. As far as I'm concerned, this IS the fourth season; Good stuff. :thumbsup:
 
TAS is great! While it admittedly suffers from episode lengths being half that of TOS (or more correctly, the scripts not being written well for the time allotted) and cheap animation, I think it has some of the best Star Trek stories and I enjoy a lot of it more than any of the other spin-off series.
 
I dig TAS. It took me a few episodes to get used to the different flow of the series. Once I was used to that, it was fantastic. "Yesteryear" and "The Survivor" are fantastic. Plus, "The Practical Joker" is one of the most bizarre 'Trek' episodes I've seen, which is fun.
 
Im a bit at a loss as to why it seems to have a very low profile?
As far as I know its never been shown on TV in the UK.
I think it did, but a long time ago - before I became a Star Trek fan. That means maybe 10-15 years at least.

It's an odd series. Some stand-outs and some clunkers. Usually 20 minutes of entertaining diversion though.

TAS is usually discussed in the original series forum, where this thread will be sent I'm sure.
What he said.
 
TAS is sort of the red headed step child of Star Trek, some love it, me included, and some hate it. Some like to say it's not "real" Star Trek, and it's not canon, but others say that it was Exec produced by Gene Roddenberry, produced by DC Fontana, and starred the original cast so how could it NOT be canon?

This has become such a muddled issue. Back in '91 or so, Roddenberry and his assistant Richard Arnold issued a memo in which they offered some definitions of what Roddenberry considered to be the canon. This was mainly in response to the popularity of the novels and comics; GR wasn't happy about some fans considering ST done by other people to be more "real" than ST done by him. But he also chose to declare TAS non-canonical, for a variety of reasons, including its often more fanciful stories and its low-ish production values, and perhaps because of legal uncertainties regarding its ownership with the demise of Filmation Associates. (Unlike all other Trek productions, TAS wasn't made by Paramount, but by Filmation under license from Paramount.)

However, Roddenberry died a couple of years later and Arnold was fired a day or two after that, and their policy declaration about canon and TAS was never enforced by anyone else (contrary to fan assumptions). Subsequent Trek TV producers slipped numerous TAS references into the shows -- not just the explicit "Yesteryear" references in "Unification," but references to Edosian orchids and the Klothos in DS9, Vulcan's Forge in ENT, etc. Nobody at Paramount has ever bothered to make an official declaration defining the canon status of TAS, because (again contrary to fan assumptions) most TV/movie producers don't really think of canon as something that needs to be formally defined (since everything they make is part of the canon by default, so it's not really an issue to them).

Technically, "canon" does not mean "continuity" (contrary to even more fan assumptions -- basically there isn't a single correct fan assumption about canon). It just means the core body of work as opposed to derivative works. Plenty of long-running canons contradict themselves and disregard earlier portions of themselves. For instance, Voyager disregarded The Final Frontier insofar as the whole premise of the show depended on a starship not being able to reach the center of the galaxy in 20 minutes. And all ST episodes and films referencing antimatter have disregarded "The Alternative Factor" in that using antimatter didn't destroy the universe.

On the other hand, TAS was produced under license, so a case could be made that it isn't technically part of the canon. But that doesn't matter. It's available for reference within the canon if producers of new material wish to reference it, and it can be disregarded if they wish to disregard it. But the same goes for every work of extracanonical tie-in fiction, and it even goes for things within the canon itself. So TAS's canon status really isn't an issue.
 
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I have yet to see an episode of this, but I plan to buy the existing DVD soon. Everything TOS is worth having in my shelves.
 
I have the DVD set, and love it. Partly this is because it is a trip down memory lane, as I remember watching a number of episodes on TV in the mid seventies, but mostly because I consider it a very worthy follow on to the original three seasons of TOS, and its a joy the have the animated characters voiced by the original actors.

Regards
 
Im a bit at a loss as to why it seems to have a very low profile?
As far as I know its never been shown on TV in the UK.
I think it did, but a long time ago - before I became a Star Trek fan. That means maybe 10-15 years at least.

It's an odd series. Some stand-outs and some clunkers. Usually 20 minutes of entertaining diversion though

It was last shown IIRC on one of the Saturday morning kids TV slots on BBC. I watched them mostly for the cartoons, they usually split them so you'd have to keep watching. My sisters would watch the whole thing, I'd pay attention when TAS was on. It was around the same time that they did Thundercats of a morning too. This was all as opposed to C4, where some excellent cartoons were simply played without any fuss, start to finish.

For an animated kids series, it was pretty good. Given that it was basically TOS lite running for half the time, that was a given.
 
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