Star Trek: Starships Model/Magazine Subscription

[Kemaiku]

I just flicked through the Eaglemoss Facebook page, and no images of the Enterprise J at all show up.

https://www.facebook.com/StarTrekStarships/photos

 

[Racer_X]

Pics are in Ben's twitter feed: https://twitter.com/BenCSRobinson

 

[DimesDan]

Pics are in Ben's twitter feed: https://twitter.com/BenCSRobinson

Which was posted two hours ago.

 

[Kemaiku]

1. That's Twitter, not Facebook
2. It was posted today not "before now"
3. Fuck, that looks horrid

 

[Racer_X]

Really, guys? I try to be helpful and you act like dicks? Ok.

 

[mindx2]

Which was posted two hours ago.

I appreciated the posting because I didn't know as I don't read every post or have FB or Twitter nor care to.

Really, guys? I try to be helpful and you act like dicks? Ok.

Thank you for posting.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I try to be helpful and you act like dicks?

Name-calling crosses the line between post and poster. I understand what you're saying, but let's keep it less personal, please.

 

[Markonian]

There are numerous pics in Doug Drexler's Facebook, among the comments. Including photos of top and blttom (posted by Ben). On Twitter, Ben also posted the sideview of the prototype:
https://twitter.com/bencsrobinson/status/751472700246335488


Top view of prototype:
https://www.facebook.com/doug.drexler.7/posts/10153551550441104


Sorry, I can't find Ben's post of the underside anymore.
It's a beautiful ship & model, imho. I wonder whether the bussard collectors will remain yellow.

 

[BillJ]

3. Fuck, that looks horrid

That is pretty bad.

 

[DimesDan]

Really, guys? I try to be helpful and you act like dicks? Ok.

Yes you were and I am sorry you seemed to take offence at the mere fact that I pointed out you linked to something from a different source that was claimed and well after said image was "live."

 

[drt]

There are numerous pics in Doug Drexler's Facebook, among the comments. Including photos of top and blttom (posted by Ben). On Twitter, Ben also posted the sideview of the prototype:
https://twitter.com/bencsrobinson/status/751472700246335488


Top view of prototype:
https://www.facebook.com/doug.drexler.7/posts/10153551550441104


Sorry, I can't find Ben's post of the underside anymore.
It's a beautiful ship & model, imho. I wonder whether the bussard collectors will remain yellow.

Heh. That one's not arriving intact.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Such a flimsy design. Then again, in "real life" that thing looks like it could be twice the size as the JJPrise, which would make the connecting pylons quite beefy close up. Scale (and context) is everything.

 

[shapeshifter]

I like it, 'cept for that side view. The off-angle of the nacelles clashes with the other-wise clean profile.

Flimsy looking does't mean it is. I imagine it must be made of an incredibly strong something to be so thin. As for its size, iirc it is huge, with the saucer being about the same diameter as DS9's outer ring.

ST Legacy: The Enterprise-J game play.

 

[BillJ]

Heh. That one's not arriving intact.

 

[Markonian]

In Star Trek Online, the Enterprise-J is more than twice as long as a Vengeance-class dreadnought from the Kelvin Timeline.

 

[Wetworth]

3. Fuck, that looks horrid

no no no make it go away!

Is it in STO? I haven't been on in a long time.

 

[RAMA]

I love it. One of the rare handful I NEED to have.

The design ideas behind the J from Doug Drexler:

The Enterprise J was a throw-away, but in spite of only being seen briefly on a monitor, it has developed it’s own cult following.

First, think about that challenge. We've been designing starships for decades. How do you say futuristic, when you have been living the future for that long? Where do you go? Through history, the earmarks of futuristic have always bordered on that which is absurd, ridiculous, unfathomable. In the past, truly futuristic ideas have been mocked, and laughed at. If you design an Enterprise from a far-flung era, and it is instantly accepted as fitting right in, you've failed. The ideas behind the Enterprise J had to seem ridiculous in order to be successful. You can see that approach on the Matt Jefferies TOS Enterprise. The unsubstantial engine pylons were ridiculous, and I heard that all the time from critics of the design back in the 60s. Those impossibly thin engine supports gave it’s nacelles a floaty appearance, defying the laws of physics. In my opinion the ever-heavying up of engine struts over the years, took some of the magic out of the Enterprise. I knew that the Enterprise J had to break ape-brain rules in order to fulfill the order of far-flung future. It's structure had to be impossible. It had to be impossible in overall size, mission, and facilities. I knew that if someone looked at it and didn't say, "... that's ridiculous! One photon torpedo would knock off a nacelle like a soap bubble!"... I'd failed.

THE ARENA

Working on a television show is unlike anything else. It is not for the feint of heart. It is more demanding than a motion picture, and takes a different kind of head to do it with any class, or style.

When you have the kind of team that we did during that incredible golden age of Star Trek, one that respects the past, and the underpinnings of the concepts heart and soul, you have a creative force that shines intensely bright, regardless of lack of money and time.

I have to laugh every time I watch the credits on a big budget science fiction epic, one that lasts only 2 hours or so, yet has literally thousands of names that you need a magnifying glass to see. This army of thousands works sometimes for several years, and has an embarrassing amount of money to conjure with. But when you have a team of people who have been working hand in glove for several decades, who never get tired of one another, or the concept that they are dedicated to, have no money, and no time... well, that might be the very definition of real magic. I think a cage full two thousand monkeys, with dump trucks full of money, over several years can make a so called "epic" feature film, but does it have real heart? I don't think you can buy that, no matter how much money and time you may have. What we had was a deep abiding love for Star Trek, for one another, and for what had gone before. When you have that, you are plugged into zero creative point energy, and the potential is limitless. (Continued as you click through the pictures)

More:

THE IDEA
Ship Profile and Mission Envelope

You know how the Enterprise was described to Charlie X as “a whole city in space”? The original 1701 was really a village compared to the J. At two miles in length, it even dwarfed the D ship. A multi-generational vessel, that had large parks, entertainment zones, skies, and entire universities on board. The ship is so large that turbo lifts would be replaced with site to site transporters.

The Enterpise J would not be welded together, like we have seen so many places before. The very idea that a ship of this magnitude would be built like a 20th century trestle was absurd. Sparks spewing from welding torches? Positively laughable! More ape-brain thinking that had no place here, and honestly, to my way of thinking, had no place on any of the Enterprises after the NX.

No, the Enterprsie J would be "grown", like an organic animal. Even today we are printing parts for machine. SpaceX is printing rocket engines. What's it going to be like in 500 years, and on a grand scale? Starships will be printed. Structural members will not be trusses and girders. Not by a long shot.

The genius of its elegant curves of its structure is based on the optimal shape to support itself with a minimal amount of building material. Because structural members will be “printed”, we will be able to custom design every individual part to cater to gradient stress distribution. This will allow us to take advantage of fractal patterns in the construction of the Endurance. Not only is this mathematically more advantageous than standard truss construction, but it will give the ship a heretofore never seen design ethic.

The Enterprise J will in fact be a creature. It will not be all lifeless components, but some of the "growing" of the ship will be organic living structures. During the war in the Pacific, army engineers built overnight runways on coral islands. Bringing in construction material was difficult. What they did instead was to blast parts of coral reefs, and use the ground up reef material to pave runways. Most incredible was the fact that these runways were alive. The runways needed to be doused with sea water everyday in order to keep them that way.

What is it like living on a starship that is a quantum leap beyond everything that we have seen so far? You can live in an "apartment" similar to what we have seen on the D, but imagine that there are suburbs on the ship, that are like living in a valley on Earth, with a sky, and a sun. Of course, if you do live in "quarters" that are an apartment, you can change the Holosettings to make it anywhere, or anything you want. The Riviera? Under the sea of Pacifica? A log hewn cabin? Literally anything. As I had mentioned... This "City", your starship, would have large parks, entertainment zones, skies, and entire universities on board. The ship is so large that turbo lifts would be replaced with site to site transporters. If you're not in a hurry, you can catch the Grand Concourse Freeway, and drive your 20th century Maserati into the "Urbs". Sometime a holo experience gets to be psychologically unfulfilling. The same would go for rock climbing, and skydiving. On this ship you can do the real thing.

The ship also had prominent, HUGE windows that covered large parts of the hull. Most people imagine that these would be ceilings and floors, meaning that our feet are always pointing "down" in relation to the ships direction of flight. Down the Y axis. But why? We control gravity and energy field. There are large areas where your feet are pointed toward the center of the saucer, and the supposed ceiling and floor windows are actually walls. Now you're doing some stuff that a lot of people will crinkle their nose at! Good job! Anything worthwhile and new was once disorienting. If people are not moved one way or the other, you've just retreaded an old idea. Big deal! The status quo is our enemy in this arena.

What about the ship's bridge? In truth you don't need to ever leave your cabin. It can all be "conferenced" wherever you are. But just like skydiving and knowing that it's real, you will go to a location that is physical, but is physically malleable, to be any bridge that is the "BOD", Bridge Of the Day. The bridge crew on the Enterprise J can fly any bridge in history. It's part of their training, and it's incredible fun.

So we've established this Enterprise can afford a quality of life, and environment never before seen.It is a greater quantum leap than the Enterprise D was, and logic demands that it be so. It's all about "impossible".

The Enterprise D was a "Galaxy Class" vessel. The J would be a "Universe Class". It would not be limited to our Galaxy, but could make leaps between Galaxies, other dimensions, even different times, as a matter of routine. It is the ultimate adventure machine.

 

[Kemaiku]

no no no make it go away!

Is it in STO? I haven't been on in a long time.

The nacelles actually worse on the model than the render, and how ugly are the window details, this is their sloppiest work yet.

 

[CommanderTrip]

Welp, I made my first eaglemoss ST purchase. Found a U.S.S. Equinox unopened at a local flea market and snagged it for $20. I love it. The detail is great, and the magazine is cool too. The stands are vastly superior to the diamond select ships as well. Its funny bc I think this equinox model is almost inscale with the playmates Voyager that I've had for years. I'm strongly considering setting up a subscription through eaglemoss... OR at the very least buy a few more ships ala cart... especially the NX01 refit and the special issue DS9... Although is it just me, or does ops on the model look..... a little odd? Like it's missing something?

 

[t_smitts]

Welp, I made my first eaglemoss ST purchase. Found a U.S.S. Equinox unopened at a local flea market and snagged it for $20. I love it. The detail is great, and the magazine is cool too. The stands are vastly superior to the diamond select ships as well. Its funny bc I think this equinox model is almost inscale with the playmates Voyager that I've had for years. I'm strongly considering setting up a subscription through eaglemoss... OR at the very least buy a few more ships ala cart... especially the NX01 refit and the special issue DS9... Although is it just me, or does ops on the model look..... a little odd? Like it's missing something?

I have the Equinox too. They did a really good job on that one. If you want more, my first suggestion would be checking in with the comic/collectible stores in your town (assuming you live somewhere that has one).

If you can afford it, I'd go for the subscription. If you're in the UK, you could possibly order some back issues through Eaglemoss. DS9 and the NX-01 refit are exclusives so they I'm not sure if you can get those through them.

Beyond that, if there's some earlier ones in the series that you have your heart set on, you might need to check eBay. You don't necessarily have to buy something right away, but keep looking and check prices (plus a lot of sellers will combine shipping if you by multiple items from them at once).

In terms of a la cart ones, Issue #1 of the Enterprise-D looks wonderful. The 1701 and regular NX-01 look really nice too. I also really like the Akira, the Centaur, the Jem'Hadar battle cruiser, the Romulan drone, the Andorian ship, the 22nd century Klingon BoP, and the Defiant.

I love it. One of the rare handful I NEED to have.

The design ideas behind the J from Doug Drexler:

Yeah, his description makes this sound awesome. I look forward to it. I'd also like to know what he'd think the intervening F, G, H, and I would look like (and yes, I know the F shows up in STO).