"Star Trek" should be dedicated to Kelley and Doohan
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^ I suppose I should elaborate. 
I don't think every movie over and over and over again needs to be dedicated to Roddenberry or anyone else.
But this movie is specifically the beginning of a new chapter in the Trek universe, and one which is going back to the original characters and, by extension, the original series. It's one where the torch is being passed, and which they are hoping will bring a whole new generation of reinvigorated Trek.
That, to me, is an extremely appropriate time -- perhaps the most appropriate time you will ever have -- to acknowledge and respect those who have come before who have made Trek successful and popular. Not just one, but all of them.
Now, in terms of specifics, I think if you're going to do that, you have to acknowledge Gene Roddenberry even though he's been acknowledged before. I also think it's fitting and appropriate to mention DeForest Kelley and James Doohan, both of whom are members of the original cast who have died and who have never had a dedication in a subsqeuent Trek production. And perhaps if you're going to single out three or four, also include Gene L. Coon, who was absolutely instrumental -- possibly more instrumental than any other -- to the success of TOS.
Beyond that, I think you also need a blanket statement acknoweldging all the men and women who have been a part of Trek over the years and who have carried on the legacy.
And for all of that, we're talking about one title card. A few seconds of screentime before the film starts. Nothing that affects the story of the new film in any way. No baggage to be dealt with by the filmmakers, no fandom warfare, nothing that's going to hamper the film in any way. Just a simple gesture of respect for all the great Trek personnell who have come and gone.
I don't think every movie over and over and over again needs to be dedicated to Roddenberry or anyone else.But this movie is specifically the beginning of a new chapter in the Trek universe, and one which is going back to the original characters and, by extension, the original series. It's one where the torch is being passed, and which they are hoping will bring a whole new generation of reinvigorated Trek.
That, to me, is an extremely appropriate time -- perhaps the most appropriate time you will ever have -- to acknowledge and respect those who have come before who have made Trek successful and popular. Not just one, but all of them.
Now, in terms of specifics, I think if you're going to do that, you have to acknowledge Gene Roddenberry even though he's been acknowledged before. I also think it's fitting and appropriate to mention DeForest Kelley and James Doohan, both of whom are members of the original cast who have died and who have never had a dedication in a subsqeuent Trek production. And perhaps if you're going to single out three or four, also include Gene L. Coon, who was absolutely instrumental -- possibly more instrumental than any other -- to the success of TOS.
Beyond that, I think you also need a blanket statement acknoweldging all the men and women who have been a part of Trek over the years and who have carried on the legacy.
And for all of that, we're talking about one title card. A few seconds of screentime before the film starts. Nothing that affects the story of the new film in any way. No baggage to be dealt with by the filmmakers, no fandom warfare, nothing that's going to hamper the film in any way. Just a simple gesture of respect for all the great Trek personnell who have come and gone.
Um, no.
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I have to agree. Number6, that was an unnecessary cheap-shot and you know it.
Having a dedication in the credits is not baggage and, yes, it does fall under "would be nice".
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Yeah, I certainly don't think this "MUST BE DONE OR ALL TREKKERS SHOULD GO OUT AND HANG ABRAMS AND QUINTO BY THEIR BALLS!!!1111"
But I do certainly think it's something to consider. These two guys died fairly recently and were really the two biggest Trek characters after Kirk and Spock. It would be a nice gesture to their families to have a dedication.
But it doesn't "have" to happen. Both guys were so nice, I doubt they'd care or ever demand something like that.
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But I do certainly think it's something to consider. These two guys died fairly recently and were really the two biggest Trek characters after Kirk and Spock. It would be a nice gesture to their families to have a dedication.
But it doesn't "have" to happen. Both guys were so nice, I doubt they'd care or ever demand something like that.
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I'm sure Vejur just used a poor choice of words.
I won't be. I never even thought about it until I read this thread.
Dedications are almost mandatory for novels & books (even school textbooks) yet haven't caught on so much with movies.
There aren't too many examples, but so far 2 Trek movies did it, IV was dedicated to the crew of the space shuttle Challenger, VI to GR. I think it's a very nice thing to do, a bit classy and different.
There aren't too many examples, but so far 2 Trek movies did it, IV was dedicated to the crew of the space shuttle Challenger, VI to GR. I think it's a very nice thing to do, a bit classy and different.
that might be best..
or make mention say dee and doohan and then say to all the others who contributed so much to this legacy.
really once you mention rodenberry you might want to also mention gene coon who also made a significant contribution .
in fact was any trek ever dedicated to coon.
Geez, I think they scould change topic thread name to The mandatory thread. perhaps let me refraise what i wroteLord Garth said:
I'm sure Vejur just used a poor choice of words.
I won't be. I never even thought about it until I read this thread.
This would be ,,mandatory'' for Abrams to have memorial segment(credit )of the closing credits, dedicating the film to DeForrest Kelly, James Doohan and Gene..Bottom line is, it would be nice of Abrams to honor them..
Nice idea, but not really needed and might omit other, less-famous members of the Trek family who have also passed on.
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