Yeah each of the "Supreme Court" has a different level of fandom from Orci's major fanboy to Abrams not at all. Kurtzman's was more towards Orci's. I think Lindelof was more to the fanboy side too.
Spoilers STAR TREK: SECTION 31 - Grading & Discussion
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true, an entry point for non fans. But, if this was the first Trek a non Trekkie saw, and they decided to check out more, the rest of the franchise is quite different tonally, to this.
I suppose Disco would be the logical next step, if they wanted more Yeoh
It's no "She was nova, that one".RedLetterMedia is wrong.
There is a "Yum Yum" line in Section 31.
It's "Mecha Boom-Boom".
A woman so insatiable that a stack of books with legs might even have fallen victim to her charms.
Gary probably literally sent her in Kirk's direction. Classic meet cute, with books hitting the floor and eye contact as he and blonde tech pick them up. Hallmark Trek coming to P+ and the Hallmark Channel this Christmas.A woman so insatiable that a stack of books with legs might even have fallen victim to her charms.
A Christmas CAROL.
Well yes getting new fans is always good. But one things for sure. This stink pile of a movie is a poor entry level into star trek. If they want new fans we need to give them the best of what star trek is. That will keep the fanbase growing.
yes, I want movies that bring in new fans and make me proud to be a Trekkie for the last 30 years.
Movies like this kind of make me embarrassed to be a fan
Movies like this kind of make me embarrassed to be a fan
That was always my impression too. In fact, of Abrams directorial filmography, the two Trek films are the only ones where he doesn’t have a writing credit. I assume that’s because he left it entirely to Orci and Kurtzman, believing they had a better grasp of what makes Star Trek than he personally did.
i would say it was the biggest misfire of Kurtzman era, but then there's the Very Short Treks. Those werent good.
Except those are not canon. So I guess S31 takes the dubious title
Except those are not canon. So I guess S31 takes the dubious title
It weird. how a Star Wars Guy make a better Star Trek than Star Wars? Until today, I still think that Star Trek 2009 was way better than Star Wars 7 - 9. But that's me. Maybe for me Star Trek 2009 was my cup of tea while the new Star Wars Trilogy wasn't. Although I like Mandalotarian.
Miss fire? It feel more something that made just to fulfill their contract with Michelle Yeoh. Something that they didn't want to make, but forced into.
I still remember in TNG when Picard and Spock had a secret mission in Romulan together. And their action were actually better as a SPY story in Star Trek Universe than this Section 31. Just remember how Spock made a hologram room to hide themselves, etc. It was spectacular, and more SPY like adventure than these ragtag amateur spies in Section 31.
Doesn't make it any less of a misfire.
What? It worse than miss fire. With Miss Fire, you still has a passion to do it, but It didn't reach your target, aka, miss your target / miss fire. But this is what? Do they aim to reach the target? Nope. They didn't even bother to aim the target. They don't even have any target. Like just pull your trigger to waste your ammo.
I’d call TFA the best film of his directorial career, way above his Trek output. At least he restrained himself from frantically shaking the camera and shining flashlights onto the lens. TROS may have its issues, but I never end up disliking any of the characters the way I dislike how Kirk is written in ST09/ID.
I'm sure they had a target in mind. And aimed at it. Those involved were passionate. But the weapon and projectile were faulty.
This felt like a movie that was so desperate to ingratiate itself with normies that it ended up coming off like this meme:
Every possible colloquial feels twenty years out of date.
“Does it come with fries?”
It’s like an AI tried to emulate how Joss Whedon writes dialogue but without the wit or understanding of where the dialogue is coming from.
Every possible colloquial feels twenty years out of date.
“Does it come with fries?”
It’s like an AI tried to emulate how Joss Whedon writes dialogue but without the wit or understanding of where the dialogue is coming from.
I thought it was great fun. I would place it probably fourth overall in the list of Star Trek films.
Georgiou is a delightfully fun character and it was great to see her again.
The whole crew was fun, a motley bunch of misfits like Picard season 1. We have Strange New Worlds and soon Academy for Starfleet focused content it's good to spread out a little bit and enjoy other aspects of the universe.
Seeing Section 31's transition from Discovery is interesting, operating with much less overt advertisement than before and on a need to know basis much more akin to DS9.
I can see Rachel Garrett becoming captain of the Enterprise following these events. I can imgine that Romulans attacking a Klingon outpost was not something Starfleet wanted to get involved in, the Empire was an acquaintance at the time so they had no obligation to come cross their borders and come to their aid as well as the risk of starting a war with the Romulans, but thanks to Georgiou's influence Garrett would be willing to toss the rules aside and jump into the fray to do what's right.
It's 13 years before Tasha Yar is born so the Turkana IV tease can't directly relate to her but it doesn't mean her parents couldn't be involved.
I hope for more. There's a big lost era to explore.
Georgiou is a delightfully fun character and it was great to see her again.
The whole crew was fun, a motley bunch of misfits like Picard season 1. We have Strange New Worlds and soon Academy for Starfleet focused content it's good to spread out a little bit and enjoy other aspects of the universe.
Seeing Section 31's transition from Discovery is interesting, operating with much less overt advertisement than before and on a need to know basis much more akin to DS9.
I can see Rachel Garrett becoming captain of the Enterprise following these events. I can imgine that Romulans attacking a Klingon outpost was not something Starfleet wanted to get involved in, the Empire was an acquaintance at the time so they had no obligation to come cross their borders and come to their aid as well as the risk of starting a war with the Romulans, but thanks to Georgiou's influence Garrett would be willing to toss the rules aside and jump into the fray to do what's right.
It's 13 years before Tasha Yar is born so the Turkana IV tease can't directly relate to her but it doesn't mean her parents couldn't be involved.
I hope for more. There's a big lost era to explore.
TrekMovie.com posted their full review of the movie today. They make a similar argument while accusing the production of failing at every level creatively.This felt like a movie that was so desperate to ingratiate itself with normies that it ended up coming off like this meme:
Every possible colloquial feels twenty years out of date.
“Does it come with fries?”
It’s like an AI tried to emulate how Joss Whedon writes dialogue but without the wit or understanding of where the dialogue is coming from.
Section 31 fails Star Trek. There is nothing wrong with trying out new things within the franchise, and that has certainly been done well before. The franchise has been breaking its own mold since the ’70s as it jumped from The Original Series into feature films and Saturday morning cartoons. We have seen a variety of premises, genres, and appeals to broader audiences over the decades, but never before has an entry seemed so disinterested in the core values at the heart of Gene Roddenberry’s vision of the future. The themes of optimism, humanity bettering itself, family, and cooperation get lip service at best. Even the setting goes out of its way to eschew the trappings of Trek. With the exception of some Trek tech (photon [torpedoes], transporters, and the like), there is almost nothing that gives viewers the feel of Star Trek. So even if one was thoroughly entertained by Section 31, it’s hard to imagine new viewers being inspired to check out more Star Trek on Paramount+, which sort of should be the point. And if they did check out the most likely candidate, Discovery, they would find almost no connections when it comes to story and style. This last bit has to sting even more for fans of that series.
Review: ‘Star Trek: Section 31’ Is A TV Movie
The first adventure into streaming movies comes up short.
trekmovie.com
I don’t mind the setting of the movie being outside of Federation space. That may prevent us from seeing familiar aspects of the “lost era” thus we can’t visually connect it with Trek. That could have easily been made up by a a great script and direction, but that doesn’t happen with this movie.
