Star Trek-RM: Who Mourns for Adonais?… Grading/Discussion
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Apparently, God had precious little or nothing to do with the script doctoring for the fifth movie.
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What does God need with a starship?
Apparently, God had precious little or nothing to do with the script doctoring for the fifth movie.
Re: Star Trek-RM: Who Mourns for Adonais?… Grading/Discussio
I think God was on vacation at the time.
I think God was on vacation at the time.
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"Who Mourns for Morn?" on DS9 was similarly entertaining in its own way. Dumber, to be sure. A Quark/comedy episode and not deep in any philosophical way like the TOS story, but entertaining anyways.
"Who Mourns for Morn?" on DS9 was similarly entertaining in its own way. Dumber, to be sure. A Quark/comedy episode and not deep in any philosophical way like the TOS story, but entertaining anyways.
Re: Star Trek-RM: Who Mourns for Adonais?… Grading/Discussio
This is one of those episodes that suffers from a cheap set. Trek always looks so much better when filmed on location and outdoors. This instead looks like what it is, a set built on a cheap budget. Could you imagine The Paradise Syndrome filmed on a cheap set (SHUDDERING)
This is one of those episodes that suffers from a cheap set. Trek always looks so much better when filmed on location and outdoors. This instead looks like what it is, a set built on a cheap budget. Could you imagine The Paradise Syndrome filmed on a cheap set (SHUDDERING)
Re: Star Trek-RM: Who Mourns for Adonais?… Grading/Discussio
How horrible.
Don't ever see a play in a small theater; they'll want you to use your imagination there, too. They don't even have CGI.
Then you'd be forced to use your imagination to fill in the gaps.
How horrible.
Don't ever see a play in a small theater; they'll want you to use your imagination there, too. They don't even have CGI.
Re: Star Trek-RM: Who Mourns for Adonais?… Grading/Discussio
On the DVD set with the behind the scenes stuff, DC Fontana pronounces it "Addo-nay-us." I'll go with that.
The hand was awful. There's even a shot where it seems to be "attached" to the planet, like Green Lantern's green laser fist would be attached to his ring. Hideous. There really are some times when the 40+ year old effects are actually better. This is one of those times. Apollo should jst be able to project the hand without a beam. So, are we to assume his head is also attached to the planet by a looooong neck? The rippling didn't work for me either.
I'm happy they didn't fix Shatner's mangling of the word Pollux. He still says "Polacks" four years before Carroll O'Connor.
On the DVD set with the behind the scenes stuff, DC Fontana pronounces it "Addo-nay-us." I'll go with that.
The hand was awful. There's even a shot where it seems to be "attached" to the planet, like Green Lantern's green laser fist would be attached to his ring. Hideous. There really are some times when the 40+ year old effects are actually better. This is one of those times. Apollo should jst be able to project the hand without a beam. So, are we to assume his head is also attached to the planet by a looooong neck? The rippling didn't work for me either.
I'm happy they didn't fix Shatner's mangling of the word Pollux. He still says "Polacks" four years before Carroll O'Connor.
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Not one of the better ones. I thought the concept of the Greek/Roman gods being space travelers was fairly intriguing but the execution was not good. Apollo comes off as a boorish ignoramus with superpowers who was not above raping a women to satisfy his carnal uges. I felt disgust toward the character and was glad he "died" at the end. I'm glad they changed the script to not have Polamis pregnant with his child at the end. If it was because of the rape, yuck......
Not one of the better ones. I thought the concept of the Greek/Roman gods being space travelers was fairly intriguing but the execution was not good. Apollo comes off as a boorish ignoramus with superpowers who was not above raping a women to satisfy his carnal uges. I felt disgust toward the character and was glad he "died" at the end. I'm glad they changed the script to not have Polamis pregnant with his child at the end. If it was because of the rape, yuck......
Re: Star Trek-RM: Who Mourns for Adonais?… Grading/Discussio
Part of me was hoping Okuda and his team would add some distant clouds or mountains/rolling hills to the backdrop behind the temple set but they never did. It needs more depth and realism to it, but whaddya gonna do.
Part of me was hoping Okuda and his team would add some distant clouds or mountains/rolling hills to the backdrop behind the temple set but they never did. It needs more depth and realism to it, but whaddya gonna do.
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I never said it was "cheap." Just not deep and realistic enough. But like you said the trees sway somewhat so maybe stagehands shook the bases to make it look like a wind was blowing on the planet's surface.
I never said it was "cheap." Just not deep and realistic enough. But like you said the trees sway somewhat so maybe stagehands shook the bases to make it look like a wind was blowing on the planet's surface.
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I guess it could have been a lot worse, considering how bad some of the Season 3 ones were after the severe budget cuts of 1968("The Empath," anyone?)...
I guess it could have been a lot worse, considering how bad some of the Season 3 ones were after the severe budget cuts of 1968("The Empath," anyone?)...
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I've always liked the empath, possibly because I've always thought Katherine Hayes was enchanting. The minimalist sets I think actually helped add to the eeriness of the setting and made the viewer concentrate on the story and characters instead of distracting from them.
Any time that ep is discussed there's always a sharp diversity of opinion. While it's never going to have the universal acclaim of some episodes, just the fact that it is controversial shows that "The Empath" was not a total failure. It certainly was a provocative episode as opposed to some episodes that just don't raise any kind of reaction or universally bad reactions.
I've always liked the empath, possibly because I've always thought Katherine Hayes was enchanting. The minimalist sets I think actually helped add to the eeriness of the setting and made the viewer concentrate on the story and characters instead of distracting from them.
Any time that ep is discussed there's always a sharp diversity of opinion. While it's never going to have the universal acclaim of some episodes, just the fact that it is controversial shows that "The Empath" was not a total failure. It certainly was a provocative episode as opposed to some episodes that just don't raise any kind of reaction or universally bad reactions.
Re: Star Trek-RM: Who Mourns for Adonais?… Grading/Discussio
This is what gods do.
Re: Star Trek-RM: Who Mourns for Adonais?… Grading/Discussio
Robert A. Heinlein speaking through Lazarus Long said that people rarely create gods that are superior to themselves with most coming across as spoiled children.
Robert A. Heinlein speaking through Lazarus Long said that people rarely create gods that are superior to themselves with most coming across as spoiled children.
Re: Star Trek-RM: Who Mourns for Adonais?… Grading/Discussio
That was before the timeline got changed.
That was before the timeline got changed.
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