Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x09 - "A Moral Star, Part 1"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Prodigy' started by Commander Richard, Jan 26, 2022.

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  1. Commander Richard

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  2. Turtletrekker

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    They better rescue the little Caitian kid.
     
  3. Mark_Nguyen

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    Guess they figure out how to turn the engines back on.

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  4. Deks

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    That... and Janeway could have restored her memories to help the kids activate the Proto Warp.

    Or Drednok may have done something to the engines (though to be fair, I don't understand why he ended up in broken pieces with the vehicle replicator behaving as if itself was broken when the temporal anomaly was repaired on the ship).
     
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    Or a tragic backstory leading to a Caitian super villain.
     
  6. Markonian

    Markonian Fleet Admiral Moderator

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    The main cast seems pretty set in stone. I can't imagine they abandon the Caitian but I also don't see TPTB add another character to the crew. So what's the solution?
     
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  7. JoaquinSlowly

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    For what it’s worth, the show’s creators, the Hageman brothers, tweeted with the hashtag #SaveTheCaitian yesterday about the episode, and over the course of their previous series at Netflix the regular supporting casts did tend to evolve and expand over time.

    I’m not thinking their becomimg a significant recurring character is a forgone conclusion, but ‪‪I wouldn’t totally count out the possibility.
     
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  8. Tuskin38

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    Obligatory, 'A Moral Star' is an anagram of Tars Lamora
     
  9. JoaquinSlowly

    JoaquinSlowly Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    That fact is exactly why ‪‪I thought the last five episode titles or Season 1A might be legitimate when ‪‪I first saw them back in November.

     
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  10. Precious Tritium

    Precious Tritium Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Also Astral Roam.

    Which is kinda cute if intentional.
     
  11. DaveyNY

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    I think Drednok was being built in all of the different time shifts at the same time, but only got completed in one.
    When things returned to normal, all the versions got smooshed together into the completed one which is why it was almost reduced to slag.
     
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  12. AnimationAdmiral

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    Love this episode. RETURN OF THE CATIAN CHILD!
     
  13. tomalak301

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    Pure set up for next week, but another great episode. I hope we find out next week why the Ship is so important to the Diviner. Considering they said they are doing arcs of 10 episodes each, I have a feeling next week will be pretty important for the mythos of the series.

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    Not sure if I like the uniforms though. They seem a little bland, but I guess this is a cadet ship. Still, it could use some color.
     
  14. JoaquinSlowly

    JoaquinSlowly Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    This show just keeps getting better and better.

    ‪‪I’ll have more thoughts after sleep, but this was highly enjoyable, and ‪‪I can’t wait for next week!
     
  15. AnimationAdmiral

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    Definitely gonna get some lore drops next week! Still, the “nothing’s more Starfleet than that” speech made me tear up.

    Those look like provisional uniforms, which would be different shades of dark and light grey, following TNG and Lower Decks precedent. When Janeway changed her uniform to match, it had stripes of command red on the shoulders and sleeves. Kinda like a natural next step of the First Contact uniforms with mostly grey and black and color around the collar.
     
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    PRO commbadges are just as fragile as the 32nd century ones XD
     
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    They were pretty fragile on Voyager and DS9, too!
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  19. Yistaan

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    Ok, am I missing something or did holo-Janeway drop the ball on here completely? The Diviner demands the Protostar return within 1 day or he'll kill all the mining slaves. The crew treats this as their Kobayashi Maru and holo-Janeway agrees, saying that if they jump to the Federation and ask for help it's not enough time to save the miners, if they go back to the lying, slaving, murderous Diviner it's obviously a trap, and if they do nothing the miners will die. Let's break this down.

    1. Even if the Protostar ask the Federation for help, the Fed won't help. The civil war between Gwyn and her father is an internal Tars Lamora matter, and by the Prime Directive the Federation cannot get involved. All the Fed will do is take the Protostar back and put the kids in an orphanage or something. Why doesn't holo-Janeway say that?

    2. Real world countries, institutions, etc. have a policy not to negotiate with terrorists, and I'd imagine the same principles apply to the Federation--I think we've seen that before in Trek. Why didn't holo-Janeway immediately cite this, and stop the kids from going back to Tars Lamora? The Diviner is a lying, enslaving, murdering tyrant, and he cannot be trusted. Holo-Janeway has known for some time now that these are not Starfleet cadets but alien minors, but last episode she said she was still programmed to protect them as her crew. So why doesn't she? She should have forbidden them from returning to the Diviner and cited policies of not negotiating with terrorists. Instead, she gives them a pep talk about how going back to rescue the miners is in the spirit of Starfleet, etc., knowingly endangering these kids (and in reality, Starfleet probably would not get involved for the reasons I mentioned above). And indeed, the Diviner tries to murder them. This is just as bad as that other Star franchise having Qui-Gon Jinn take kid Anakin into a war zone.

    3. Ironically the option that deep down everyone wants, to stay on the ship and do nothing, is probably the only correct one. While holo-Janeway may prefer that they return the Protostar to the Federation, legally as the kids aren't Federation citizens they have no obligation to. And as mentioned above, the Fed can't get involved in the Gwyn/Diviner dispute anyway per the Prime Directive. The ridiculous idea of sending the kids back to negotiate with a dangerous dictator should have been ruled out immediately. If the kids had already made up their minds on not returning the ship to the Federation, then Janeway should have protected the kids by advising them to do nothing.
    Holo-Janeway says she has the crew's best interests at heart, but nothing in this episode reflected it, just more of her propaganda about Starfleet that ironically wouldn't apply because the real Starfleet almost definitely would not get involved.
     
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  20. NCC-73515

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    The new uniforms

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