Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x10 - "The Last Generation"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Apr 19, 2023.

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  1. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    And the best part is Chef from the NX-01 was also on the Titan-A earlier in the series.
     
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    NOPE...
     
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  3. FreezeC77

    FreezeC77 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I want an animated comedy set at this alien deli on an alien planet.
     
  4. Racefuel

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    Hopefully not forcing people to be cold soup again
     
  5. Commander Troi

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    I'm only on page 27 of 90(!), but I wanted to shout out to @Scionz and @Sci for their thought-provoking and courteous discussion.

    For the record, I loved it. More details later.
     
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  6. NX_01

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    Fair enough. Big power gap between thrusters and impulse, maybe Utopia Planitia is working on something
     
  7. Rusty0918

    Rusty0918 Commander Red Shirt

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    I like those discussions. We definitely need to move on. I would very much like to see this supposed "Star Trek: Legacy" series that has been talked about, although there hasn't been any official information about it and Matalas has warned us not to get too cocky about it - although I have to say it's pretty tempting. I'm for it, but one never knows. Strange New Worlds looks to be pretty good this year, I have to say.
     
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  8. Photoman15

    Photoman15 Commodore Commodore

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    The "Q" scene was filmed while they were filming the 2nd season (near the end). I just don't know if Jack and Q were filmed separately, or Jack was already there getting ready to film Season 3.

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  9. drt

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    It's not entirely clear they're DOTs since all we see are tiny things fixing the ship, so it's understandable it folks didn't realize that's what they were supposed to be, but Blass or someone else from the production confirmed it via tweet.
     
  10. Pubert

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    Pretty cool.
     
  11. Photoman15

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    The Borg ship just got there. It wasn't there the whole time.

    Jake joking around is a year later, after some Academy fast-tracking and probably some therapy.


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  12. Soong-type Android

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    An alright but not great finale. It wrapped things up in a decent enough fashion I suppose. Q returning at the end was the cherry on top in course correcting from the previous 2 seasons. Can't say I'm too happy about the Titan-A being turned into the Enterprise-G though.
     
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  13. Romulan_spy

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    I kind of hope that the Borg are gone for good because they were frankly overused. Plus, their story is complete. But if they wanted to bring back the Borg, they could say that there was a Borg cube somewhere that was disconnected from the Collective when Janeway infected the Queen, so they survived. And this Cube would be queenless so they could go back to the Borg like in Q Who who are a collective without a Queen.
     
  14. Photoman15

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    Soji was NOT in season 2. She's on the android planet with her sisters and brothers.
    Kore is exploring with Wesley.

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  15. Tosk

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    She was seen in 2x01, "The Star Gazer", hanging with Deltans.
     
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  16. firehawk12

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    There are trillions of people in the galaxy, presumably with vast areas of space still unexplored. We already know the Federation falls apart in the far future, but the galaxy didn't implode on itself when it happened and people found ways to continue to live.


    Again not to drag the real life into this, but the US essentially destroyed the entire Taliban hierarchy, hunted its leadership, and occupied Afghanistan for two decades... only for them to regain power pretty easily. This "cut the head off the snake" idea is a nice fiction, but also creates a rather shallow world.

    (For example, the very premise of Battlestar Galactica is that it's possible to survive after the annihilation of everything you may have known)

    Yeah, I guess it depends if you believe the premise that Earth is the center of the universe... I guess I never got that sense. Vulcan is a founding world of the Federation and it didn't really impact the Kelvin-verse when it was destroyed and left the Vulcans homeless.

    We don't really know anything about the state of the galaxy... but also, I do want to point out that this particular point doesn't bother me in terms of my overall feelings of the series. It's just an odd way to try to raise the stakes when the scope of the Federation collapsing was done quite well in Discovery Season 3.

    I mean, I never got that Vadic went back to the Great Link after the war and then came back from Gamma with others, but I may have missed that.

    The theme of the season was about family. You have an arc where Riker has to retroactively deal with the death of his son to make up for the weirdness of season 1, but they couldn't find a way to work in his daughter other than a quick mention.

    People like the poker scene, but I think there could have been a case for a scene where the TNG crew bring all their families together to have one big family/found family reunion to neatly tie up the family theme.

    I think narratively it's odd to make Shaw's backstory tied to his Borg trauma but then ignore it for everyone else at the end. Even Jack seems perfectly cool with what he did after a flash forward, when for this version of Picard, the Borg Queen has literally haunted him for the past 30 years of his life.

    We clearly see that Sydney is traumatized by what she did when Seven comforts her, but then it's kind of waved away as an inconvenience. Am I supposed to think Shaw is weak for not being able to do the same thing? I'm only able to react to what they show on screen, not what ideas were cut or what the writers may mention on Twitter.
     
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  17. Farscape One

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    No, the best line was Worf and Riker.

    "And I will make it a threesome."
    "Do you ever hear yourself?"


    And Worf again, with the two words every Klingon knows but refuses to say... defeat and farewell.


    Okay, I want a Captain Worf series now!
     
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  18. gvn2fly

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    Odo knew some changelings left the link and were planning something against Starfleet. Either they left on their own and later found Vadic and her few changelings somehow or Vadic's group went to the link to recruit others?
     
  19. gvn2fly

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    So what do people think about Vadic being scared of the borg queen earlier this season? It doesn't really fit with the pretty powerless borg queen we saw in the finale. And how was the borg queen remotely able to cause Vadic pain? We've never seen the borg use technology like that. It also appeared like Vadic was scared of what would happen if she didn't capture Jack, but why would she be scared of a powerless borg cube? This season has noticeable flaws like this that bug me. Another is that changeling earlier in the season that was involved with the attack. When he was being chased by Worf why did he not hide and then change into a small rock or dirt or rodent or fly away as an insect?
     
  20. Tosk

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    Or (due to the theory that they are not able to turn into inanimate objects any more) turn to meat-jello and drop into a drain or something.

    As for the rest, I'm sure there will be a tweet somewhere that makes excuses for them all. ;)