Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Feb 15, 2023.

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  1. Pubert

    Pubert Vice Admiral Admiral

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    While she no longer wears the catsuit she wears a pretty tight uniform and you can see Jeris curves. So yeah they brought her back because she still looks good and frankly hasn't aged a whole lot since Voyager ended.
     
  2. firehawk12

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    In the text of the show, being forced to go by Annika is an example of how Starfleet is stifling her and making her question her very beliefs. I don't know the dates, but it's been what? 15-20 years since Voyager and she chooses to go by Seven, so presumably she decided that she is "Seven" and not "Annika".

    Yeah, I think the name Seven means something to her for her to keep it all this time. Maybe she never saw the need to change it officially, but I'd almost expect that not to matter in a 'progressive' future.

    And the whole deadnaming thing is so coded that I assume it's meant to evoke the same horror as when someone does it to a real person. Otherwise, it seems kind of weird to use it otherwise.

    I mean, there is public deadnaming that happens all the time - most recently with a girl who was tragically murdered in the UK - so I have to assume it's meant to negatively characterize Shaw.
    To me anyway it's the same as making a character using a racial slur in order to get the audience to react negatively to them.
     
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    Cool story bro…
     
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  6. RuleofAcuisition17

    RuleofAcuisition17 Commander Red Shirt

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    Pretty much. This at the end of the day definitely felt a bit more thought out (previous series didn't, probably from Chabon and Goldman pulling double duties seemingly elsewhere) and also seemed to know what notes it needed to chime for both a casual viewer and us horrible lot lurking the internet arguing minutae.

    Ryan's 54. 54! Still looks like she's in her 30s. At least she's wearing something nice and not a skintight romper which just highlights her rear and chest.

    Like, the bit with the phasers in the opening with Gates McFadden is utter badassery on screen 101.

    We moaned about the "pump action" phasers.
     
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    People that make modern Trek don’t seem to get that the little details like that matter to us.
     
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  8. Pubert

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    Another uniform change yet again. But I do like the call back to the front opening that the Wrath of Khan and following TOS movies had. These uniforms look better than the ones we saw in the first season.
     
  9. Pubert

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    Right. I miss the traditional phaser beam. It was fairly unique to star trek. I guess they needed to satisfy the newer fans that like star wars.
     
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  10. cooleddie74

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    I'm not a fan of the bolts. At all. I know the main phaser banks of the TOS Enterprise occasionally fire bolts but that shouldn't be held up as an excuse.
     
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  11. Jaimito

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    Nicely done.

    The Shaw dinner scene had a bit of Hannibal Lecter vibe to it. He's a easy guy to dislike. I wonder if he stays one dimensional or surprises as the season progresses.

    I bet Will Wheaton was WTF, mom had another son and I didn't know about it! Who was the father, Picard?

    The end credits with tribute to Annie (late Borg Queen), First contact music, etc, were excellent touches.
     
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  12. Pubert

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    Yup. It's Kurtzman wanting to follow what Abrams did in the Kelvin movies is why we see the stupid bolts and things like the window viewscreens. I hate them both.
     
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    When was the last time we even saw a Trek ship use a beam weapon?
     
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    SNW uses beams if I remember rightly.
     
  15. cooleddie74

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    Beams and bolts, but when the DSC and SNW Enterprise does fire beams the sound effect is the classic, unchanged TOS sound effect for a phaser beam.
     
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    There's a shot of I believe the Titan firing a beam in one of the trailers.

    Lower Decks, Prodigy and Strange New Worlds and Discovery all use beams.

    We saw beams and bolts in Picard Season 1.
     
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    Took the words right out of my mouth.
     
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    The Titan doesn't have a window viewscreen, the Cerritos hasn't since Season 2, at least not the normal kind, it can apparently be turned off. Most background ships don't.

    We have seen ship fired beams in several episodes of all the series.
     
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  19. cooleddie74

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    The AI and Control crap in DSC was some of the dumbest stuff to ever get written into Trek but at least the final battle with Section 31 gives us the best starship phaser beams since TOS.

     
  20. Pubert

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    The hand phasers all seem to be bolts.