Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by pst, Mar 12, 2020.

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Rate Star Trek: Picard 1x09 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 1"

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  1. Sir Stewart Wallace

    Sir Stewart Wallace Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    It's
    LORE, LORE I TELL YOU!
     
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  2. Farscape One

    Farscape One Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I think it is a son we never knew. The timing fits. The big question is who was his mother.
     
  3. thribs

    thribs Vice Admiral Admiral

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    That would work as well. I actually thought that was they were going to meet when they landed. They have deliberately kept his name out of the show so far.
     
  4. thribs

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    They are telepathic robots now it seems. :)
    Those Romulan ships are fine but rather bland looking. I was hoping for some Valdore type ships in the fleet. I always liked that design.
     
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  5. pst

    pst Commodore Commodore

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    i gave it a 7. the opening sequence was a ton of fun, but like all scenes in the CBS all access era, it was too short. and while i can praise the show for fully embracing its TNG roots, sexy gold soji and brent spiner playing another soong was just kinda cheesy.

    honestly the way everyone was dressed reminded me of the edo in “justice”. i kept thinking, this isn’t the android planet, it’s the orgy planet.
     
  6. thribs

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    If only Kirk was there. He would have got all the robots to self destruct with some paradoxes. After he had slept with a few of the lady ones of course.
     
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  7. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

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    I've stayed away in recent weeks as my opinion of the show dropped, and I didn't want to "hate watch" and then moan on here. But.....what the hell are they doing? WHAT the hell are they doing?!

    The thing is, there's a good show in here somewhere.....but these people are incapable of finding it. This episode was just plain bad. I'm not even going to be kind and say "Yay we see Soong again!" This was just bad. Hokey, ham-fisted. A barely-there plot manufacturing no tension to build up to the end of the episode. Poor writing in a basic sense. At least Captain Picard actually was something like himself for fleeting moments but otherwise? A mess....it's a mess.

    I'm not angry. I'm just disappointed.
     
  8. Farscape One

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    I'm thinking it's like this...

    Noonien Soong and his son had some disagreements on how to proceed in creating androids, and they went to different worlds to finish their work. Noonien on Omicron Theta, Alton on Coppelius.

    They both succeeded, but in different ways.


    I do like the twist of the Admonition being a promise and not a warning. So it looks like this AI force is intergalactic, something we virtually never see in STAR TREK. I like this idea, because that opens up more of the universe.
     
  9. thribs

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    I’m pretty sure a Borg Cube crash landing on a planet would do some considerable damage to the surrounding area. They have a volume of 27,000 m3. That’s not small
     
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  10. Sir Stewart Wallace

    Sir Stewart Wallace Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Asimov rip off alert! They're definitely not Zeroth Law followers. R. Daneel would be...gravely concerned.

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Roboturner913

    Roboturner913 Commander Red Shirt

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    So.......that was kind of a mess. I'm not even sure what to think. I didn't hate it, but I didn't particularly like it either. And good Lord why would anybody trust that Sutra? She might as well have had a giant sign on her forehead that says "I AM AN EVIL TEMPTRESS"
     
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  12. Sir Stewart Wallace

    Sir Stewart Wallace Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Damn right it is.

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  13. AlanC9

    AlanC9 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The Zhat Vash operatives may not officially exist as such, but they do have status in the existing Romulan power structure.

    As for why the Romulans still have hundreds of warbirds, it's not like their ships would simply have ceased to exist. They didn't sit around and wait to be burned u by the supernova.
     
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  14. Roboturner913

    Roboturner913 Commander Red Shirt

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    Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense.
     
  15. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Admiral Admiral

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    Definitely felt like the first half of a story. Can't really judge it on its own.
     
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  16. AlanC9

    AlanC9 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Well, human telepaths are a thing, per TOS --although honestly, I can't remember seeing one since.

    An android doing it is new. OTOH, I don't have a good reason why an android couldn't duplicate this ability. (Hell, in Asimov's works telepathy is developed by robots and taught to humans, rather than the other way around.)
     
  17. Gov Kodos

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    More likely Sutra and let Narek escape to take the fall for it plus pushing her own agenda.
     
  18. bookworm8571

    bookworm8571 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I would assume all of them were clones of the original father and there is no mother. At this point they probably have artificial wombs.
     
  19. Roboturner913

    Roboturner913 Commander Red Shirt

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    Yes, this was incredibly dumb. IDK. The more I think about it, this episode was just kinda bad. I had the fear the writers had written themselves into a corner after last week's episode and this one did nothing to dispel that fear.
     
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  20. Sir Stewart Wallace

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    An unfortunate truth with this show, I'm afraid. At least Part 2 will undoubtedly be better than Part 1; Star Trek does seem to have learned what a payoff is since the Berman Era.