Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x05 - "Cupid's Errant Arrow"

[Hythlodeus]

I have a feeling I'll be rewatching these down the line, but I'm going with an 8 once again, in the most positive way. The black junk sensor bars brought Borat to mind for a split second...

that was no censor bar, that's what Boimler junk looks like

 

[Charles Phipps]

that was no censor bar, that's what Boimler junk looks like

Purple hair=Alien.

 

[Tomalak]

I just really like this show. It's cute and fun and still tells classic Star Trek type stories in twenty minutes. I hope they make more.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Boimler is a stickler for rules, naive, and a bit obnoxious but I've never known that to be so hideous one couldn't ever get a girlfriend. Mariner acted like he was one of the Phage aliens.

 

[NCC-73515]

But he's like George McFly. "You! Give me a milk! Chocolate!"

And then he takes a hardcore sip and slams it back on the table, and wipes his mouth like it was anything but chocolate milk XD

Supplemental material doesn't count. The ship is hardly "falling apart." And doing "second contact" also doesn't mean you're "the worst", just not the best.

The show has failed to deliver on the premise of "the worst ship in starfleet." So far, it's just....a regular ship that does missions of moderate to moderately high importance.

Ever watched the intro?

 

[cooleddie74]

The ship gets pounded by asteroids and spins out of control and clips the top off an ice cliff on another space body, venting warp plasma from a nacelle. Hardly "the ship everyone wants to serve on."

 

[BillJ]

8.

The highlight of my TV week.

 

[Charles Phipps]

The ship gets pounded by asteroids and spins out of control and clips the top off an ice cliff on another space body, venting warp plasma from a nacelle. Hardly "the ship everyone wants to serve on."

They also take one look at the Borg battle against the Romulans and go, "Screw this, I'm outta here."

I mean....right call but apparently Captain Freeman is the type to leave the Kobayashi Maru to die.

 

[Beagleman]

I feel they are getting better from episode to episode, my first 9. Keep it up guys!

 

[valkyrie013]

Would have been funny if during Barb's and Mariner's fight that some "Amok Time" fight music started playing

 

[NCC-73515]

Would have been funny if during Barb's and Mariner's fight that some "Amok Time" fight music started playing

I think they used the BOBW music again

 

[Rhodan]

Also... This episode might mark the first instance I am actively looking forward to see it again.

 

[Kevman7987]

Mariner and Boimler's friendship is heavily one-sided. Mariner cared about Boimler's well-being to such an extreme degree that she put her own health & sanity in jeopardy to protect him. I can't see Boimler ever going anywhere near that far for her.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Would have been funny if during Barb's and Mariner's fight that some "Amok Time" fight music started playing

Even funnier if they whipped lirpas out of nowhere.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Mariner and Boimler's friendship is heavily one-sided. Mariner cared about Boimler's well-being to such an extreme degree that she put her own health & sanity in jeopardy to protect him. I can't see Boimler ever going anywhere near that far for her.

I see it as a more Iron Man vs. Captain America.

Mariner: You'd never sacrifice yourself to fight a Gorn in hand to hand to save me!

Boimler: No, I'd call security!

 

[NCC-73515]

Mariner and Boimler's friendship is heavily one-sided. Mariner cared about Boimler's well-being to such an extreme degree that she put her own health & sanity in jeopardy to protect him. I can't see Boimler ever going anywhere near that far for her.

When their friendship began, he immediately asked to not be friends anymore XD

 

[Charles Phipps]

I hope Barb returns.

 

[Sarcastic Vulcan Salute]

Mariner and Boimler's friendship is heavily one-sided. Mariner cared about Boimler's well-being to such an extreme degree that she put her own health & sanity in jeopardy to protect him. I can't see Boimler ever going anywhere near that far for her.

Friendship doesn't have to be a one-for-one equal transaction. Part of what made this episode better than I expected was that Mariner had reasons to be supersuspicious that were not related to "I'm openly/secretly jealous of Boimler." The fact that a shapeshifter literally ate a close friend of hers by posing as a too-good-to-be-true partner in her past and the PTSD from that event helps explain why she would be so determined to prove it. Boimler doesn't have anything like that in his backstory (as far as we know), so he wouldn't be suspicious or motivated like Mariner was. Plus, his personality is not the badass rogue, so even if he did become suspicious, he would have done things by the book: notify Lt. Shaxs and/or the Vancouver's security chief to investigate whether Barb was an intruder of some sort.

I would say Boimler has proven his friendship by not ratting out Mariner for her many, many breeches of Starfleet regs or general rudeness (bringing contraband on the ship, stabbing him in the leg, sneaking Starfleet farming equipment without express authorization, drinking margaritas and bloodwine on the job, failing to follow mission parameters and drop K'orin off directly at the embassy, her rocking the ship so hard, stealing senior officer replicator privileges despite her demotion, probably missing some) despite having been given a direct order to do so.

Doing something that goes against his nature and that could get him in trouble if it were discovered is friendsip, through and through.

 

[fireproof78]

Friendship doesn't have to be a one-for-one equal transaction. Part of what made this episode better than I expected was that Mariner had reasons to be supersuspicious that were not related to "I'm openly/secretly jealous of Boimler." The fact that a shapeshifter literally ate a close friend of hers by posing as a too-good-to-be-true partner in her past and the PTSD from that event helps explain why she would be so determined to prove it. Boimler doesn't have anything like that in his backstory (as far as we know), so he wouldn't be suspicious or motivated like Mariner was. Plus, his personality is not the badass rogue, so even if he did become suspicious, he would have done things by the book: notify Lt. Shaxs and/or the Vancouver's security chief to investigate whether Barb was an intruder of some sort.

I would say Boimler has proven his friendship by not ratting out Mariner for her many, many breeches of Starfleet regs or general rudeness (bringing contraband on the ship, stabbing him in the leg, sneaking Starfleet farming equipment without express authorization, drinking margaritas and bloodwine on the job, failing to follow mission parameters and drop K'orin off directly at the embassy, her rocking the ship so hard, stealing senior officer replicator privileges despite her demotion, probably missing some) despite having been given a direct order to do so.

Doing something that goes against his nature and that could get him in trouble if it were discovered is friendsip, through and through.

Exactly so. The first thing that popped in to my mind was Boimler's not reporting her to Freeman, even though he would have been within his rights to do so.

 

[ToddCam]

Exactly so. The first thing that popped in to my mind was Boimler's not reporting her to Freeman, even though he would have been within his rights to do so.

Yep. To go against his orders is a huge sacrifice in his mind.