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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x05 - "Cupid's Errant Arrow"

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I can’t believe nobody mentioned Realm of Fear, with Barclay remaining conscious a long time while in the beam!
I did! :)

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/sta...ids-errant-arrow.305514/page-15#post-13516966

There's also Kirk's and Savik's ongoing vocal discussion as they're beamed up from Regula One to the Enterprise as they're re-materializing in the Transporter room in Star Trek Ii The Wrath of Khan.

That's the instance I was referring to in TWOK (same post).
 
In any case, I think we underestimate just how much work a transporter chief does. It's not just pushing a button and they probably have to operate the bio-filter.

I look at that aspect of it as similar to what happened in "The Most Toys." O'Brien gets a flashing notice and alert that there's a weapon in transit with Data that has discharged and then he manually disables it.

So the transporter is on the lookout for oddities and then notifies the operator who in turn handles it.
 
Just rewatched it and I gotta say I liked it the second time around. I still wasn't keen on the Mariner storyline mainly because it did feel like sitcom cliches but I think it's a better episode than a 4. I did actually appreciate Captain Freeman's storyline more, and her reaction to finding out the guy and his wife were the only ones living on the moon was actually funny, followed by the "implode the moon". I also liked the Tendi/Rutherford storyline, even though they are both thieves. I wish I could change my score. I would give this one a 6 or 7 on the rewatch.

Maybe I shouldn't stay up till 11:15 PM to watch these episodes. They actually do have a bit of a rewatchability value to them, so maybe doing them during the day might make me like the show better.
 
The transporter AI would know about the orange car, but it doesn't know it's not supposed to be there. Let's change grey bricks to, let's say , Ensign Picard. He's waiting for his first assignment with his pals. He gets into a fight with some Nausicaans. He has to have his heart replaced with an artificial one (the orange police car). His next transport can't remove the piece that it thinks shouldn't be there. Each person would have to have a file of "what they're made of" But that would preclude beaming someone up (or down) from a new world.

As to the second point, technically they can do that (Tasha), but one, that may have been decided that it is unethical and is not allowed. Other wise, it could be done, but just isn't. I was writing a script for TNG when it was on where upon beam up, a crew member was hit by lightning at dematerialization. The surge was partially brought up and went thru the system. The damaged transporter lost the pattern but pulled part from a program that was just being shut down in the holodeck but used still had the crew members conscience. (I forget the details, but I had it explained better in the script). So the dilemma of the story was who was this person (way before Tuvix)? Was it Ensign So-and-So or K'Ehleyr (Worf was finishing up her death anniversary in the holodeck). I'm not presenting it here like I wrote it out, and I never finished it because TNG ended. I have it on a harddrive somewhere.

(this was written because I wanted to bring K'Ehleyr back :) )

The transporter takes a "snapshot" of you at the time of beaming. It analyzes you, records you and reassembles you. The artificial heart is irrelevant. It takes you (and your clothes and objects in your hands, pockets, etc.) and recreates them.

But, since the transporter has to know what every single thing is and what it does, it would, of course, know that it's recreating a parasite or something that shouldn't be there.

Except that the transporter is not intelligent enough (apparently) to automatically compare transporter traces of the same person to find differences, or to inherently recognize that the grey bricks should not have an orange car in it, ever. And nobody seemingly thinks to run those types of checks on the regular.

They also sidestep the notion that there's no reason the transporter can't be used as an immortality/cloning machine. "What's that, Data? Tasha just got killed by Armus? Well boot up the version from when she just beamed down and re-energize."

of course it's "smart enough." The transporter has to know what every single atom (nay, subatomic particle) is, where it goes and what it does. By definition, it HAS to be smart, or it couldn't possibly work.

By the way, the way transporters work is that they absolutely do murder you and create a replacement and they certainly could be used to keep you eternally youthful.

It doesn't make sense, people!
 
Ever if the rest of what you wrote was right, why did the transporter have to know what each thing does? Described that way it doesn’t sound too different than a download (only that the data is transferred, not copied) in our world and the browser certainly doesn’t know it it’s downloading the file as it should be or if it had been tampered, adding malware. If the malware is known by the antivirus (biofilters...) it will be detected, otherwise I will get trough.
 
Ever if the rest of what you wrote was right, why did the transporter have to know what each thing does? Described that way it doesn’t sound too different than a download (only that the data is transferred, not copied) in our world and the browser certainly doesn’t know it it’s downloading the file as it should be or if it had been tampered, adding malware. If the malware is known by the antivirus (biofilters...) it will be detected, otherwise I will get trough.

The simple fact is the show has repeatedly shown people smuggling things in, diseases, disguising their identities (sometimes even species), and a bunch of other things. I know people like Star Trek technology to be perfect but 50% of the show is stuff breaking down.

The other 40% are exploration and the remaining 10% alien politics.
 
I exactly. So, however you may interpret the way the transporter works it’s pretty clear that the biofilters are very far from working in every case.
 
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