Star Trek IV: What Might Have Been
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Interesting tidbit. Although that already happened with Kirk except he obviously didn't find out until years later. To re-hash the same storyline would have been uneccesary.
I have always heard rumors they tried to work in Eddie Murphy in a role as he was a big fan and a big star
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I would've like to have seen more on Saavik's child.
Put down the LDS, man.
Either put it down, or take it all.
As for the topic, I'm sorry not have gotten the Chapel cameo. It would have been better and more enjoyable than her usual roles in ST films. She was underused.
Regarding the cut Saavik scene, I'm more disappointed not to get this one. Saavik helped Spock through Pon Farr in III, and there seemed to be something awkward going on between them at the beginning of IV. Rumors swirled at the time Saavik's pregnancy was a planned plot, and Robin Curtis did a few interviews where she'd say things like, "I want to have Spock's baby." That gave me a chuckle or two. It's interesting to find out it wasn't fannon or the unwanted notion of the actress. I also think it would have made sense for the character's exit. As it is, she just kind of disappears.
It definitely would have added real dimension to the character's betrayal of Spock and Spock's forced mind meld.
I'm wondering what it would have been like if Eddie Murphy (who is a huge Trekkie) was in it. He was supposed to play a college prof who sees the Klingon ship decloaking during a football game - he's the only one who thinks it's real, everyone else writes it off as a halftime special effect.
Murphy decided to do The Golden Child instead so the character of Gillian Taylor was created to replace him.
Murphy decided to do The Golden Child instead so the character of Gillian Taylor was created to replace him.
IIRC there was originally a small conversation between Scotty and McCoy during the Transparent Aluminum scene. Turns out the guy Scotty gave the formula concept to was the one credited with it's discovery in his history books. No timeline corruption, just enabling the timeline to proceed.
Scary. Eddie Murphy was the first thing I thought of, when I read the title too.
And apparently the Akira Sulu scene (where Hikaru meets his ancestor, who's a young child) was going to be filmed, but the kid who was going to play Akira started to cry and they couldn't go ahead with the scene.
We did get a little snippet of that conversation.
McCoy: You're realize if we give him that formula we're changing the future.
Scott: Why? Who says he didn't invent the thing?
McCoy: (Smiles broadly)Oh, yeah.
Not in the shooting script.
It was in an earlier draft the writer doing the novelization used to adapt the story. See my post above yours for all that remained of it by the time they put it before the camera.
Vonda McIntyre had to have seen it. She's the one who wrote the novelization. There was a prolonged scene about Scotty writing out the matrix for transparent aluminum, describing it as taking an hour or two, before McCoy asks Scotty about giving Dr. Nichols the formula. Scotty tells McCoy Dr. Nichols is the one who developed it in the first place, so they aren't changing history. Just maybe hurrying it a couple of years. All that got distilled down into the scene we got in the film through rewrites, some of it probably for time.
It's entirely possible that was just McIntyre expanding on what was already in the script to fill out the scene in the novel.
