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Star Trek Fundamentalism

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Reading is for zealots.

All zealot literature can be read.

Think about it. :shifty:
It matters not.

Such people will fade away as easily as the memory of the last 13 years will fade away when the second coming of Christ in the form of JJ is upon us.

Not long now. :drool:


hmm punster//
;)

how well do you know your new lord and saviors.
the writers not only are also fans of all the series including the newer ones but also of trek lit.

:lol:

So just what was wrong with Transformers then? What could they have done to have made that better? I think it did what it set out to do and it's a perfectly watchable film to waste a few hours to.

Or was it just an 80's cartoon that got a big budget makeover? You know, like Trek was a 60 sci-fi show that got a big budget makeover in the 70's.

Perhaps that's the reason for bringing these guys in - perhaps the studio sees that Trek simply was not fun any more and some loud shouting and explosions would bring in the megabucks.

Who could blame them?

I could not.

uhmm
you totally missed my point.
i wasnt the one bringing up transformers.

my point was you keep on saying the slate will be wiped clean of the most recent trek series and i was just trying to point out the writers have said they are fans of the trek series.

i wouldnt be hoping for too much of a clean slate in that regard
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A split in fandom is upon us it seems to me.

More like a merger.

1987: Old Trek (TOS) vs. New Trek (TNG)

1993: TOS vs. TNG vs. DS9 or Old Trek vs. New Trek vs. Newer Trek

1995: Still Old Trek vs. New Trek vs. Newer Trek, except Newer Trek can now be subdivided with the introduction of VOY.

2001: TOS vs. TNG vs. DS9 vs. VOY vs. ENT. That's the plain, simple version. Without different groupings and combinations.

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2009: Old Trek (1966-2005) vs. New Trek (2009-whenever)

Still a simplified version without all the details but the bottom line is that it's a merger.

No even earlier..
1979..Original Trek vs. TMP Trek..
1982 Original Trek Vs. TMP Trek vs. Bennett Trek..then add the timeline above..
 
^ Yes, but I believe in KISS. :p

Though I do concede this is actually the second merger.
 
"there are forces at work out there who would do ANYTHING to stop this movie reaching the light of day"

Aw, Man! Busted!
Okay, can we get a Trek Fundamentalist Zealot hit team to take care of this security breach?
We can't afford to let them know that we're going back in time to stop this Abomination before it was even filmed...
...oh shut my mouth!
sorry 'bout that 'tac team.
:p
 
"there are forces at work out there who would do ANYTHING to stop this movie reaching the light of day"

Aw, Man! Busted!
Okay, can we get a Trek Fundamentalist Zealot hit team to take care of this security breach?
We can't afford to let them know that we're going back in time to stop this Abomination before it was even filmed...
...oh shut my mouth!
sorry 'bout that 'tac team.
:p
If TOS never existed, what are we going back in time to save . In fact we really should have no memories of something called TOS.
 
"there are forces at work out there who would do ANYTHING to stop this movie reaching the light of day"

Aw, Man! Busted!
Okay, can we get a Trek Fundamentalist Zealot hit team to take care of this security breach?
We can't afford to let them know that we're going back in time to stop this Abomination before it was even filmed...
...oh shut my mouth!
sorry 'bout that 'tac team.
:p
If TOS never existed, what are we going back in time to save . In fact we really should have no memories of something called TOS.

Exactly.

An canon, so long the anchor around Treks neck, can be consigned to history.

Hurrah :klingon:
 
Yes, continuity is so awful. I say they should have the redshirt that died show up at the end of the movie, just because I'm sure he was such a cool guy.
 
Yes, continuity is so awful. I say they should have the redshirt that died show up at the end of the movie, just because I'm sure he was such a cool guy.

They should do it as a tribute to the original series. Lt. Leslie was such a cool guy he was on the show for a whole year after he died.
 

You aren't, particularly since this "explanation" is actually only emphasizing the show's inconsistency - that the folks in charge weren't evening keeping track of the name of Paskey's character - rather than excusing the inconsistency of killing him off and bringing him back.
 
Paskey had no character, he was just an extra filling another role with few or no scripted lines. That one or more of those roles occasionally got so much as a name is a fluke. The point is he was just one of the disposable crewmen, with no thought necessary on the part of production about a "character history"; anything more than that has been an invention by fans.

And again, we're back to the tired nonsense that just because TOS screwed up once in a while, the concerns related to those mistakes are irrelevant. A "no need to do better" philosophy as rotted as it is lazy.
 
Paskey had no character, he was just an extra filling another role with few or no scripted lines. That one or more of those roles occasionally got so much as a name is a fluke. The point is he was just one of the disposable crewmen, with no thought necessary on the part of production about a "character history"; anything more than that has been an invention by fans.

And again, we're back to the tired nonsense that just because TOS screwed up once in a while, the concerns related to those mistakes are irrelevant. A "no need to do better" philosophy as rotted as it is lazy.

Yes - those very fans that create Trek in their own image.

Oh god - I feel sick.
 
And again, we're back to the tired nonsense that just because TOS screwed up once in a while, the concerns related to those mistakes are irrelevant.

Actually, they screwed up a lot.

When they wrote an episode, they didn't even consider a bunch of geeks pulling episodes apart for the next 43 years - watching episodes over and over and over and over.

And over. :D

They just made an episode. Tried to get the names right. Tried to get the science right.

Most of it held together pretty well, you only notice the really inconsistent stuff on the 37th viewing. ;)
 
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