Star Trek Fotonovel

[Therin of Andor]

^ There also were fotonovels for the first Charlie's Angels and Fantastic Four movies.

They aren't "true" photonovels

Nope. I just checked my FF one. I forgot I had it (from Amazon, it wasn't distributed here). It's shaped like a ST YA book and is called a "Photo Novel", not a Fotonovel or even Photostory.

But... it's more like any Bantam/Mandala Fotonovel in layout than Pocket's b/w Photostory of ST II! It's actually really cool!

 

[ATimson]

Uh, Ian, you might want to reread my post--I wasn't talking about those Dayton mentioned, but the Tokyopop ones from the majority of the sentence you omitted.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Uh, Ian, you might want to reread my post--I wasn't talking about those Dayton mentioned, but the Tokyopop ones from the majority of the sentence you omitted.

Well, when I read your post, and even now that I've re-read it, it sounded like you were commenting on the piece you quoted from Dayton, and then mentioning Tokyopop's books.

So you meant, "Tokyopop has a line of similar books called Cinemanga, but they aren't 'true' photonovels"?

 

[ATimson]

Well, when I read your post, and even now that I've re-read it, it sounded like you were commenting on the piece you quoted from Dayton, and then mentioning Tokyopop's books.

Then what would the "but" be acting on as the conditional it is?

(I truly have no idea how you parsed the sentence like you did, which is why I'm asking--I'm curious now. )

So you meant, "Tokyopop has a line of similar books called Cinemanga, but they aren't 'true' photonovels"?

Yes.

 

[Dayton Ward]

^ I'm sorry, dude, I think I'm the one who screwed up the train of thought. I was referring to the oversized paperback "photonovels" that Dark Horse is putting out. The ones I saw were for ANH and ESB, and they are formatted like the Fotonovels of old. I confused these with the "Cinemanga" books you mentioned.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I truly have no idea how you parsed the sentence like you did

Because I read it as: "There also were fotonovels for the first Charlie's Angels and Fantastic Four movies. They aren't "true" photonovels. But..." (paraphrasing) there is a similar line from Tokyopop.

Obviously that's not what you meant. If you hadn't quoted anything of Dayton's, it would have been clearer. Your pronoun "they" seemed to be relating back to Dayton's examples, not yours which hadn't been mentioned yet.

 

[Defcon]

I truly have no idea how you parsed the sentence like you did

Because I read it as: "There also were fotonovels for the first Charlie's Angels and Fantastic Four movies. They aren't "true" photonovels. But..." (paraphrasing) there is a similar line from Tokyopop.

Obviously that's not what you meant. If you hadn't quoted anything of Dayton's, it would have been clearer. Your pronoun "they" seemed to be relating back to Dayton's examples, not yours which hadn't been mentioned yet.

I hope you now understand my problems with some of your posts where you quote totally unrelated stuff (Most of the times it is much worse than what Andrew did here).

 

[Therin of Andor]

I hope you now understand my problems with some of your posts where you quote totally unrelated stuff

For goodness sake. I don't understand why you make it such a problem. Communication is a two-way street and will always be open to both sides misunderstanding the purpose of a message. There hasn't been any harm done, and Andrew and I are simply clarifying our posts. (He asked me to explain my misinterpretation, otherwise it didn't need further comment.)

Quoting a part of someone's message can seem like a very good idea when someone starts to create a post. Usually it's good etiquette to give people an idea of your starting point. Sometimes the final product might not always end up as originally intended, and there was no need to quote part of a previous post at all. But we don't always have the time to edit and reedit posts to rid them of all misleading statements, to think of every possible misinterpretation, or to ensure our messages will transfer as intended across international barriers. But not quoting part of a post can sometimes be just as misleading, too.

That's why in the world of professional publishing we have editors who help us not to create works that are too open to interpretation.

 

[Defcon]

Gee, overreacting much?

FWIW I just thought it was ironic that you're the one pointing out to someone else that he was quoting unrelated stuff, while you do it on a regular basis and get all defensive when someone points it out to you, so I took a good natured jab at it (as indicated by the smilie).

 

[Therin of Andor]

while you do it on a regular basis and get all defensive when someone points it out to you

Enough already. Okay I'm a baaaaaad poster. And that's your interpretation that I "get all defensive".

We all aren't always in the mood for certain people to take "good natured jabs" at us. It is unnecessary.

 

[Defcon]

Okay I'm a baaaaaad poster.

Actually this sentence here is a good example of you getting defensive. When someone is pointing something out to you after a while you change into drama queen mode.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Actually this sentence here is a good example of you getting defensive. When someone is pointing something out to you after a while you change into drama queen mode.

Why, thank you.

 

[Defcon]

Note to Emh:

No need to post a "Knock it off". I'll be quite now.

 

[Steve Roby]

Anyhow, anyone old Trekker's like me remember these Fotonovels?

Yep. There are times I remember how much fun it could be sometimes back in the 1970s, long before the web. You could walk into your regular bookstore and suddenly discover books you had no idea were coming out. Like the day in 1977 when I found Star Trek 12 by Blish and Lawrence and the first two Trek fotonovels on the new books display. I was disappointed when the fotonovel line ended after only twelve books. Not to mention the disappointing job done by other people on the two movie fotonovels. Sure, there were other fotonovels of other properties (I've got Battlestar Galactica, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and the animated Lord of the Rings) but the whole thing was pretty much dead by 1980 or so. I was pleasantly surprised by the Blair Witch Project fotonovel in 1999, but not at all surprised that fotonovels didn't catch on the second time around.

 

[ATimson]

Setting aside the grammar discussion for obvious reasons...

^ I'm sorry, dude, I think I'm the one who screwed up the train of thought. I was referring to the oversized paperback "photonovels" that Dark Horse is putting out. The ones I saw were for ANH and ESB, and they are formatted like the Fotonovels of old. I confused these with the "Cinemanga" books you mentioned.

They're actually probably the exact same thing, as Tokyopop doesn't have Star Wars comic publishing rights in the US at the moment. I wasn't aware that the photonovels of old were so comic-like, then! (I looked at the Charlies' Angels one on Amazon before posting, which seemed a bit more novel-like than the Star Wars ones I saw--it included more narration than comics generally tend to...)

 

[startrekfiero]

Anyhow, anyone old Trekker's like me remember these Fotonovels?

Yep. There are times I remember how much fun it could be sometimes back in the 1970s, long before the web. You could walk into your regular bookstore and suddenly discover books you had no idea were coming out. Like the day in 1977 when I found Star Trek 12 by Blish and Lawrence and the first two Trek fotonovels on the new books display.

I agree that at times I remember and wish back to the pre-internet days when things seemed more magical when you would "discover" many of the Trek toys and books for the first time. Having said that I would obviously not wish to not have the internet since my collection exploded 1000 fold or more because of it
The Trek photonovels were awesome, especially at the time as it was like having a mini DVD player so speak back in the 70's where you could experience a few of the episodes wherever you wanted. I wish they had continued with it and created more of them

 

[Mike Farley]

Aside from a handful of Trek episodic ones (A Taste of Armageddon is the only one my memory assures me I owned although I know there were several more) I had: TMP, TWOK, CE3K, Invasion of the Bodysnatchers, Nightwing, Love at First Bite, oversized Alien, oversized Outland, and oversized Popeye.

It's a shame that the modern home video, portable DVD, and iPod era has mostly made these things obselete. Although I did buy my friend's 8 year old daughter a photonovel-like High School Musical book that she was quite thrilled with.

 

[Stevil2001]

Dark Horse released a set of Star Wars "photo comics" recently, one for each movie. As well as, somewhat strangely, the Clone Wars microseries.