Star Trek Excelsior: Forged in Fire

[DS9forever]

Blood Oath is one of my favorite Klingon episodes so it's great it is getting a prequel! It'll be class to see the Albino Klingon (?) again!

 

[Captain Randy Hall]

I was one of the folks who pushed for an Excelsior TV show or TV movie, so I'm looking forward to this novel. Just as long as there's no "Asteroid Takei" in it...

 

[Stevil2001]

Christopher said:
^^Nope, as far as I can recall, it was always described as a prequel, or at least as a book that came before The Sundered.

The other way around surely-- Forged in Fire was announced years ago, before we'd ever even heard of The Lost Era.

Quite frankly, I still can't believe it's actually coming out!

 

[JD]

It was? I could have sworn I remembered the intial announcement for it after TS came out, or was that just when they announced that it was finally going to be released?

 

[Admiral_Young]

Looking forward to reading Forged In Fire and I wouldn't mind an Excelsior series. Mangles and Martin are among my favourite trek novelists so I have to disagree with the poster who stated they couldn't write, Pocket Books obviously disagrees as well.

A little off topic, but when are we going to get a follow up to the Enterprise-B situation with Demora taking over command?

 

[KRAD]

A little off topic, but when are we going to get a follow up to the Enterprise-B situation with Demora taking over command?

You mean besides "Iron and Sacrifice" in Tales from the Captain's Table?

 

[Stevil2001]

JD said:
It was? I could have sworn I remembered the intial announcement for it after TS came out, or was that just when they announced that it was finally going to be released?

It was old news in 2003, going by this post!

 

[Who_Trek]

The concept of Sulu as a starship captain never really impressed me, somehow, but I'll give it a try.

 

[JD]

Wow, hopefully it will be worth the wait, and knowing M&M it probably will be. I've really enjoyed most of their other stuff I've read.

 

[flandry84]

Any chance of more Harriman-centric fiction?
Always felt that he was rather shortchanged in GENERATIONS and then rather quickly retired in a recent novel.I seem to recall some interaction between Harriman and Elias Vaughn or am I misremembering?

 

[Larki_Toran]

flandry84 said:
Any chance of more Harriman-centric fiction?
Always felt that he was rather shortchanged in GENERATIONS and then rather quickly retired in a recent novel. I seem to recall some interaction between Harriman and Elias Vaughn or am I misremembering?

Have you read "Serpents Among the Ruins" or "The Captain's Daughter"?

 

[JWolf]

I have the Lost Era book The Sundered. I also have Forged in Fire. I have yet to read either. Is there anything in Forged in Fire that refers to The Sundered?

 

[Christopher]

Well, Forged in Fire takes place a few years before The Sundered, so I doubt that would be an issue.

And as we point out over and over again on this BBS, no author writes a book in such a way that you can't understand it if you haven't read book X first. Even when there are references to an earlier book, those references are explained sufficiently that you can follow the book you're reading.

 

[JWolf]

Well, Forged in Fire takes place a few years before The Sundered, so I doubt that would be an issue.

And as we point out over and over again on this BBS, no author writes a book in such a way that you can't understand it if you haven't read book X first. Even when there are references to an earlier book, those references are explained sufficiently that you can follow the book you're reading.

Well, as long as I have both books, I figured I'd ask just in case. Not that I could not read in either order. So as far as timeline order goes, Forged in Fire comes first. Thanks.

 

[foravalon]

Well, Forged in Fire takes place a few years before The Sundered, so I doubt that would be an issue.

And as we point out over and over again on this BBS, no author writes a book in such a way that you can't understand it if you haven't read book X first. Even when there are references to an earlier book, those references are explained sufficiently that you can follow the book you're reading.

Well, as long as I have both books, I figured I'd ask just in case. Not that I could not read in either order. So as far as timeline order goes, Forged in Fire comes first. Thanks.

You can never go wrong reading books in the order that they're published.

 

[JD]

Yeah, but I don't think the timeline really matters in this case. Neither book references the events of the other, and there doesn't seem to be any foreshadowing in FiF that would be missed if you hadn't read The Sundered.

 

[qstor]

combining the words: "Star," "Trek," and "Excelsior" is a sure fired way to get me to buy the book, and i hardly ever read Trek lit nowadays.

same here...I'll have to check it out at Barnes and Noble.

Mike

 

[ronny]

JD said:
It was? I could have sworn I remembered the intial announcement for it after TS came out, or was that just when they announced that it was finally going to be released?

It was old news in 2003, going by this post!

i didn't realize it had been talked about so long ago. no matter, it's not like there's been a dearth of ST reading in between and since FiF has turned out to be my favorite ST book since Crucible:McCoy I'll just say I think it's been worth the wait.

 

[JeremyW]

KRAD said:
^ It was never going to be a sequel to The Sundered. Forged in Fire was always planned as the backstory to "Blood Oath," which necessitated a dating consistent with that episode's establishment of when Kor, Kang, Koloth, and Curzon Dax took the blood oath. That would make it prior to The Sundered.

Oh ok, guess I was mistaken then. I cannot wait for this book, I've been dying to learn the backstory of Blood Oath since I fist saw it, and now we finally will!

And for those who have not yet read it, it could be considered a very "loose" sequel to the Enterprise episodes Affliction and Divergence. Not a true sequel in the sense that it has the same characters and whatnot (except for one major character, but he's only a cameo), but it builds on the plot elements revealed in those two episodes, but that's all I'm going to say about that. Watch those two, read the book and then watch Blood Oath, and you get a pretty good story IMO.