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I've posted before about how I found Kirk's sudden promotion from cadet to captain just pulled me right out of the otherwise fantastic movie. It's just not realistic! I'm a teacher, and I can't imagine them promoting me to the principal or superintendant of the district after only one week on the job, even if I did incredible things! I just wouldn't have been experienced enough at that point to handle all the responsibilities of that role yet!
Personally, I would love the writers of the next movie to explain away the sudden promotion in one of two ways ...
Personally, I like the second idea ... and think it could be included in some way as a brief scene in the next film. I just found Lt. Kirk way too immature at the end of the movie to buy him as the captain of the flagship. I couldn't see him making first contact with new civilizations and commanding with Shatner's presence at that point in his career!
Guess we'll see if Pine can actually carry the presence as the captain in the next film!
[I'm guessing at what you were trying to do here. PM me if I got it wrong. - M']
Personally, I would love the writers of the next movie to explain away the sudden promotion in one of two ways ...
Whatever emergency in the Laurentian sector that drew away most of the fleet destroyed the majority of the fleet, and Starfleet is at a crisis for personel, requiring sudden promotions like Kirk's. Although, if there was such a crisis, would they really then send ships out on exploration missions, if they were that shorthanded at home for defense, etc...
2) The last scene in ST, where Kirk is in cadet garb and receives his captaincy, actually happens five years later, at a ceremony where the survivors of the class of '58 have gathered to remember their fellow cadets in the other ships that did not survive. Kirk has been serving as Pike's first officer since the incident (Spock left the Enterprise to teach at the academy back in '58, following his emotional trauma... where he encounters Spock Prime, as we saw...), and has now received both his overdue commendation for the Maru test, and a promotion.
2) The last scene in ST, where Kirk is in cadet garb and receives his captaincy, actually happens five years later, at a ceremony where the survivors of the class of '58 have gathered to remember their fellow cadets in the other ships that did not survive. Kirk has been serving as Pike's first officer since the incident (Spock left the Enterprise to teach at the academy back in '58, following his emotional trauma... where he encounters Spock Prime, as we saw...), and has now received both his overdue commendation for the Maru test, and a promotion.
Pike is now in a wheelchair and grey haired because of a more recent event...
1) Whatever emergency in the Laurentian sector that drew away most of the fleet destroyed the majority of the fleet, and Starfleet is at a crisis for personel, requiring sudden promotions like Kirk's. Although, if there was such a crisis, would they really then send ships out on exploration missions, if they were that shorthanded at home for defense, etc...
2) The last scene in ST, where Kirk is in cadet garb and receives his captaincy, actually happens five years later, at a ceremony where the survivors of the class of '58 have gathered to remember their fellow cadets in the other ships that did not survive. Kirk has been serving as Pike's first officer since the incident (Spock left the Enterprise to teach at the academy back in '58, following his emotional trauma... where he encounters Spock Prime, as we saw...), and has now received both his overdue commendation for the Maru test, and a promotion.
Pike is now in a wheelchair and grey haired because of a more recent event...
1) Whatever emergency in the Laurentian sector that drew away most of the fleet destroyed the majority of the fleet, and Starfleet is at a crisis for personel, requiring sudden promotions like Kirk's. Although, if there was such a crisis, would they really then send ships out on exploration missions, if they were that shorthanded at home for defense, etc...
2) The last scene in ST, where Kirk is in cadet garb and receives his captaincy, actually happens five years later, at a ceremony where the survivors of the class of '58 have gathered to remember their fellow cadets in the other ships that did not survive. Kirk has been serving as Pike's first officer since the incident (Spock left the Enterprise to teach at the academy back in '58, following his emotional trauma... where he encounters Spock Prime, as we saw...), and has now received both his overdue commendation for the Maru test, and a promotion.
Pike is now in a wheelchair and grey haired because of a more recent event...
Personally, I like the second idea ... and think it could be included in some way as a brief scene in the next film. I just found Lt. Kirk way too immature at the end of the movie to buy him as the captain of the flagship. I couldn't see him making first contact with new civilizations and commanding with Shatner's presence at that point in his career!
Guess we'll see if Pine can actually carry the presence as the captain in the next film![I'm guessing at what you were trying to do here. PM me if I got it wrong. - M']
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