Star Trek Discovery Leaving Netflix For Paramount+ Internationally, season 4 global launch in 2022

[SJGardner]

But there will be no simultaneous release. There will probably be at least 4 release dates; even in Europe some countries will have to wait longer than others.

Just putting it out here, we've been waiting for Disney+ to be launched in Hungary for two years now and they're now saying it's coming around summer 2022. But who knows if it won't get delayed again until then.

Who's to say we won't have to wait 2.5+ years for Paramount+ as well? Or more? If a global media giant like Disney has to constantly delay their expansion by that much, what could we expect from a relatively small and debt-ridden company that seems to treat the international market as an afterthought?

 

[Relayer1]

If it wasn't for the other family members who use my Netflix account, I'd probably scrap the whole thing.

I'm looking forward to discussing that with mine...

 

[TedShatner10]

Who's to say we won't have to wait 2.5+ years for Paramount+ as well? Or more? If a global media giant like Disney has to constantly delay their expansion by that much, what could we expect from a relatively small and debt-ridden company that seems to treat the international market as an afterthought?

National Amusements/ViacomCBS may not be as slick and commanding as Disney, but still a multi-billion dollar juggernaut, however that said Paramount+ hasn't got the near decade headstart that their competitors have, in addition to that even Disney+ is an ongoing gamble, and Netflix went into deep debt (and it is very tone deaf and irrationally paranoid that ViacomCBS restricted its trailers, etc, on WORLDWIDE SOCIAL FUCKING MEDIA, defeating the point of publicity).

 

[Unimatrix Q]

https://phantanews.de/wp/2021/11/in...ernationalen-release-von-star-trek-discovery/

Fairly sure that non-German speakers will be able to understand this headline


Someone on twitter compared Paramount execs to the Ferengi. So wrong, the Ferengi would be selling their product to as many people as possible.

Yeah, more like Paklets!

 

[Paul Weaver]

Netflix gross profit for the twelve months ending September 30, 2021 was $12.375B

Paramount Group's current share price puts their valuation at $2b

There's an obvious solution for Netflix here.

 

[TedShatner10]

Whoever made this decision, they need to take a lesson from the Ferengi.

Greed is a good tool, but a terrible master. And the idiot suits at Nat. Amusements/ViacomCBS blinked and caved in.

Oh, and one other thing - Customer service is a skill. A skill that is vanishing in the US.

That explains so much about the impending collapse of the United States Of America and even your entertainment companies (like Rockstar Games recently with its catastrophic re-release of its early 2000s GTA trilogy) terminally shitting the bed....

 

[seigezunt]

subscribing to masses of content that you have absolutely no interest in, purely in order to get one or two shows that you don't want to miss

Pretty much what cable TV was for me.

 

[Orphalesion]

This whole international copyright and distribution rights nonsense is a cancer.

 

[Noname Given]

Watched 10 seasons of SG1 there not too long ago

Yeah because Netflix produced all 10 seasons... Oh wait.

 

[Tomalak]

Netflix gross profit for the twelve months ending September 30, 2021 was $12.375B

Paramount Group's current share price puts their valuation at $2b

There's an obvious solution for Netflix here.

I am actually quite surprised they haven't looked at acquiring one of the studios. Perhaps they have.

 

[Paul Weaver]

I am actually quite surprised they haven't looked at acquiring one of the studios. Perhaps they have.

I think Amazon bought MGM. With Paramount being worth so little it's something that Apple could have picked it up as part of their Apple TV offering, especially with Ronald D Moore spearheading their most popular show (For All Mankind). Netflix especially though has an existential crisis with their output, they need to secure archive material.

Perhaps they are waiting for Paramount Plus to inevitably fail before getting it at a knockdown price.

 

[Yistaan]

International friends, how is that other Star franchise handling international distribution? I recall the Mandalorian was only open in a few countries when it debuted? Are they doing better than Trek is right now as far as accessibility?

 

[Tomalak]

International friends, how is that other Star franchise handling international distribution? I recall the Mandalorian was only open in a few countries when it debuted? Are they doing better than Trek is right now as far as accessibility?

Yeah in the UK we had to wait six months to see it. Disney+ is still not available in a lot of countries, including most of Africa and Asia. More than Paramount+ though.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney+#Launch

 

[Saul]

Watched 10 seasons of SG1 there not too long ago

Why don't they have Stargate Universe on there? I have watched all Stargate shows except that one.

 

[.:: TSN ::.]

is it now though, with discovery being 900 years in the future of SNW? I guess some of the characters left in the 23rd century might show up in SBNW but I don’t think the two series will have much contact from now on.

I think that this Netflix-pullout was more about the previous Discovery seasons than this new Fourth one. Paramount+ needs to have especially the second season of Discovery to give backstory to these new versions of Pike and Spock and the universe they are living in. Paramount+ doesn't want people going to Netflix to watch the Discovery before seeing the SNW on their service.
And I suspect that Netflix would not easily agree to airing the DSC season 4 for just few months and then giving up the series.

It sucks that lots of people need to wait for Season 4, but in CBS's mind its a lesser evil than not having "the backstory" to SNW on their service when it has a global launch.

 

[Timtamttime]

I think that this Netflix-pullout was more about the previous Discovery seasons than this new Fourth one. Paramount+ needs to have especially the second season of Discovery to give backstory to these new versions of Pike and Spock and the universe they are living in. Paramount+ doesn't want people going to Netflix to watch the Discovery before seeing the SNW on their service.
And I suspect that Netflix would not easily agree to airing the DSC season 4 for just few months and then giving up the series.

It sucks that lots of people need to wait for Season 4, but in CBS's mind its a lesser evil than not having "the backstory" to SNW on their service when it has a global launch.

To them, maybe. To the literal billions of people living outside of North America, I beg to differ. France still has no news as to when we’ll be getting Paramount+… I get that France is probably a small audience, but I do know Discovery was one of the top trending Netflix shows last year when it came out, so we’re not entirely insignificant.

 

[Yistaan]

Strictly speaking, is using VPNs to circumvent region locking of tv shows illegal? I'm not encouraging it if it is, but I'm genuinely curious about the legality/feasibility of people doing that.

 

[jackoverfull]

Strictly speaking, is using VPNs to circumvent region locking of tv shows illegal? I'm not encouraging it if it is, but I'm genuinely curious about the legality/feasibility of people doing that.

the copyright owners have the right to decide in which markets to make their product available, so yes.

Not that anyone would care, of course.

 

[Yistaan]

the copyright owners have the right to decide in which markets to make their product available, so yes.

Not that anyone would care, of course.

I'd be very surprised if even said copyright owners would be upset about new subscribers from foreign countries giving them money in the form of subscriptions via VPN, but the law is the law.

 

[Captain Moe]

Just putting it out here, we've been waiting for Disney+ to be launched in Hungary for two years now and they're now saying it's coming around summer 2022. But who knows if it won't get delayed again until then.

Who's to say we won't have to wait 2.5+ years for Paramount+ as well? Or more? If a global media giant like Disney has to constantly delay their expansion by that much, what could we expect from a relatively small and debt-ridden company that seems to treat the international market as an afterthought?

Hungry is getting Sky Showtime which is a combination of Sky, Peacock and Paramount+. This actually could end up being a better deal for customers and have a better chance of surviving in smaller markets where services combine to take on the risk.

https://www.skygroup.sky/article/co...-service-to-launch-in-select-european-markets