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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x06 - "Scavengers"

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It was Starfleet Intelligence, not Security. And there was no evidence that it was Section 31, since the entire crew of the ship knew about the cloaking device.
RIKER: A secret group in Starfleet Security developed a prototype. Pressman was put in charge of testing it.
 
Pressman was from SI in the TNG episode though, so I guess he switched after the incident - or it always was SI but undercover with Security as a false flag :shrug:
 
Or Intelligence got word of it and classified it to try and stop the information from getting out to the Romulans.
 
The Klingons were Bryan Fuller, he left before Season 1 aired. I doubt it had anything to do with the negativity surrounding the Klingons because we are still getting some radical design changes, like the Betlegeusians.
 
The Klingons were Bryan Fuller, he left before Season 1 aired. I doubt it had anything to do with the negativity surrounding the Klingons because we are still getting some radical design changes, like the Betlegeusians.
Tbh I had never heard of them before just now. I assumed the orc looking fella on DIS was a Reman
 
I still don't get why anyone would sign a treaty that would authorize your opponent to use a weapon and forbid it to you. That seems insane. Plus the Romulans are sneaky bastards who tried to blow up the Enterprise D AFTER its crew had saved them from blowing up themselves! Talk about ingrates! Plus they also almost destroyed DS9 (in fact they did it in an alternate timeline).
 
Another episode where M. “Ro Laren” Burnham goes off on an adventure against orders and comes back with low voice speech and I’m sorry-isms. In truth on a hierarchical naval vessel you wouldn’t trust her much further than clearing the bilge pumps, or whatever the 29th (cough, edit, 32nd) century equivalent is. It’s a really over used plot device by the writers at this stage. A compilation of order-disobey-apologise for the series at this stage would take a while.
 
Another episode where M. “Ro Laren” Burnham goes off on an adventure against orders and comes back with low voice speech and I’m sorry-isms. In truth on a hierarchical naval vessel you wouldn’t trust her much further than clearing the bilge pumps, or whatever the 29th century equivalent is. It’s a really over used plot device by the writers at this stage. A compilation of order-disobey-apologise for the series at this stage would take a while.
I guess by the 32nd Century things have changed.
 
Another episode where M. “Ro Laren” Burnham goes off on an adventure against orders and comes back with low voice speech and I’m sorry-isms. In truth on a hierarchical naval vessel you wouldn’t trust her much further than clearing the bilge pumps, or whatever the 29th (cough, edit, 32nd) century equivalent is. It’s a really over used plot device by the writers at this stage. A compilation of order-disobey-apologise for the series at this stage would take a while.
Kirk did it all the time.
 
It was Starfleet Intelligence, not Security. And there was no evidence that it was Section 31, since the entire crew of the ship knew about the cloaking device.
I'm pretty sure the novels did eventually say that it was 31. Yes, I know it's not canon, but that still shows that it is a possibility.
 
ok:

I liked things about this episode. I liked that the authors are aware that michael is probably the worst, stubborn and selfish main character since Janeway. And I like that this is actually part of the shows themes. I also liked that georgiou has somekind of character developement going on. Makes the burden this character is to the show a little less. I kind of liked that Tilly made a fat joke about the cat, because it remindet me that watching discovery is better then to follow social media where the actress gets bodyshamed. Those meta jokes...are killing me. Except for the weak villain (who is one of many characters that cant be bothered to shoot georgiou despite she is begging for it) it was ok overall.

Btw. Ian Alexander is a great casting choice. Dude is quite charismatic and has good screen presence. (but obviously I have no idea because the constant praise M. Jeoh gets is more of a mystery then the burn to me.)

So this episode would get a 7/10 from me, buuuuuut because we had a decapitation, what was clearly a picard reference, it gets 500 nostalgia bonus points from me.
 
Another episode where M. “Ro Laren” Burnham goes off on an adventure against orders and comes back with low voice speech and I’m sorry-isms. In truth on a hierarchical naval vessel you wouldn’t trust her much further than clearing the bilge pumps, or whatever the 29th (cough, edit, 32nd) century equivalent is. It’s a really over used plot device by the writers at this stage. A compilation of order-disobey-apologise for the series at this stage would take a while.
Yeah Star Trek's never done anything like that with a character.. oh wait, there was this character named Jean-Luc Picard who was always right and always ready to deliver a preachy sermon on how he was always right...
^^^
Yeah I hear TNG fans really hated that character...oh, wait...

My point? Like it or not that type of action is a character trait of Michael Burnham that's been a part of the character since the pilot. Are you really complaining that the writers are sticking to a character flaw that the character has demonstrated again and again? Yep terrible writing... Oh, wait...
 
Another episode where M. “Ro Laren” Burnham goes off on an adventure against orders and comes back with low voice speech and I’m sorry-isms. In truth on a hierarchical naval vessel you wouldn’t trust her much further than clearing the bilge pumps, or whatever the 29th (cough, edit, 32nd) century equivalent is. It’s a really over used plot device by the writers at this stage. A compilation of order-disobey-apologise for the series at this stage would take a while.
Yup, it's a huge trope in fiction. It really doesn't mean much beyond "Don't do it again" and the story moves on.

Discovery is neither new nor offensive in its application of the trope. And that Michael is being presented in a consistent way, rather than just "Oh, I learned my lesson and I'll never rebel again" as real humans will actually screw up despite best efforts.
 
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