Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x04 - "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry"

I would rather refer to Ripper as Frances.

Also, After Trek was really good tonight. Jason Isaacs, Doug Jones, and special guest Rekha Sharma of dearly-departed Landry fame were all hilarious.

 

The Tombship had bodies as old as 2000 years on it, which in Star Trek lore might mean it's not a Klingon vessel at all but a Hurq. In which case, it may not have replicators on the ship or a more simple Occam's Razor answer that it did have replicators but they were knocked offline by the bomb.

 

Spores drown in fluid.

 

I'm trying to remember... are there any deaths in Trek stupider than Landry's? She may win the Trek Darwin Award!

This is a harsh comparison, but this terrible Klingon pacing reminds me of Winn & Dukat in the final DS9 arc. We've run out of story with too many episodes still to go before the finale, so let's have our character suddenly realize they have to spend 5 episodes sitting in some room studying this old book before anything else can happen...

It's funny, until I read this I hadn't been processing Voq as a villain. Maybe it's just that they've talked about L'Rell more in interviews and Mary Chieffo has been more prominently featured in the press, but watching the Klingon scenes, I was processing it as being a story about L'Rell, (who will probably ultimately turn out to be a hero somehow?), and everyone else there is just her supporting character. I get the logic of the war, but on-screen the Klingons feel so disconnected from what's going on with Discovery, it's hard to see the one side as actual antagonists of the other.

 

"oh hey i'll let this shield down and get myself killed by this monster". The crew of the Discovery remind me of those assholes from nuBSG Pegasus.

Besides that this was actually the first episode of 'Discovery' I liked. It felt the most Star Trekky episode despite the cliche parts and the Discovery saving the day with the shield percentage count down. I like the development of the klingon character although he is still talking too much.

 

TNG Replicators, magically teleport in front of your eyes food.

TOS Synthesizers, behind a door, stuff happens, then then you have a bowl of chicken soup.

Lets just say that they are very different devices, however we saw the ship make Michael her uniform today, which looked like a similar technology to replicators, because they were rearranging very small "particles" somehow.

 

She had a 'heat of the moment' burst of emotion. She didn't say to herself - "Okay, for that I will kill him..."; it was more of a "What! You're DEAD!" reactive moment. It fits given her background; and if anything at that point she began to realize she wasn't as 'Vulcan' as she thought. Yes, it was a BAD action to take and she's been kicking herself for it ever since it happened.

 

The tombship bodies could have been on a castle or a seaship, and the original coffin depository was "turned" into a spaceship after warp was discovered. More so the job of doing what it was doing was passed on to more complicated vehicles as they became invented.

If the crew was hungry... They should have eaten the recently lost in the battle of the binary stars.

 

i liked this episode a lot. i was emotionally impacted by several moments, especially the plundering of the shenzhou - and that’s a lot for a show that’s only 4 episodes old.

but then i realized that putting the water bear in the machine was anathema of starfleet principals full stop. there’s no debate about exploiting an animal for the greater good. we already know it’s wrong now and it should be especially egregious in the star trek universe. there’s no way to make this ok. it just falls apart from that point on. it’s low hanging fruit and emotionally manipulative story-wise and boxes these characters in... if burnham learns her lesson or comes to realize the error of her actions here next week or the week after that, it still leaves the ugly question of why she and lorca and landry did what they did in the first place.

 

... and others who follow that path

i think you are all tricked into hating them klingons (not even speaking english and such). i bet the moment the war is over they start to speak english again.

as a european i'm used to see subtitled movies all the time. it's a lot better than having them dubbed or - even worse - remade for an american audience. it's also a great way to start learning a language

 

When I was a kid, subtitled movies meant naked women.

I'd put up with a lot to see a boob or two for less than a minute.

Still do.

 

theoretically you're right but i'm sure we'll update the term cannibalism to eating sentient beings after that night in bozeman, mt

 

Klingons won't eat cowards.

That's where they'll draw the line.

 

You don't remember how Kurn responded to "burnt replicated bird meat?"

 

am i the only one who believes she's dead to free a slot for a 'numbered officer' to reinstate burnham?

 

I think L'Rell is communicating delight at the ritual of eating Georgiou. She's recollecting how Voq smiled as he picked the skin off her "smooth skull", it feels like a pleasurable event -- it's not the type of tone or imagery you would use if you are eating this body under duress, to avoid starvation.

There's a lot of truth to this. I can definitely get to Lorca just ordering it because it's a dire emergency, but it still feels like a scene is missing. The one Trek device I'm really missing here is the conference room scene. I want to see the ensemble sitting down together to try to hash out the best way to solve the problem at hand.

 

Replicators are a higher order of technology than synthesizers.

The worst reason I came up with for why they had no food is that they didn't have any money to buy food for the Klingon shops 3 stars over... When really all they needed to do was maraud any prewarp world nearby and take what they needed.

 

Score: 9 for me.

That Ep was good, and had a little bit of everything needed.

Enjoying the spore drive sequence, and 'Ripper' is an interesting addition to the 'crew' of the Discovery (to totally ignore the discomfort / pain it appears to go through, when the drive is activated).

Gotta say, my intrigue levels are hitting maximum after watching hat Ep!

Watching that space!

 

What a dumb character death.

But I am growing to like the Captain and Engineer.