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Star Trek: Countdown #1 early review - MASSIVE SPOILERS!

The uniform reminds me of the design they're using for Star Trek Online, which begins 22 years after the stardate from Countdown, which apparently Spock's line later on tosses out the window, so the uniforms fit the time period.

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It would just gets too confusing I think - what we see here is the motivation for Nero to go back in time and try and destroy Vulcan. If he's *already* from an alternative time line *headache*.

Well, Nero wouldn't know he's from an alternate timeline. Maybe this timeline with Data as an enterprise captain, and the TOs stuff that doesn't match our usual TOS stuff is the timeline that ends up being zapped in favor of the already established TOs continuity?
 
The uniform reminds me of the design they're using for Star Trek Online, which begins 22 years after the stardate from Countdown, which apparently Spock's line later on tosses out the window, so the uniforms fit the time period.

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I wouldn't say they are similar, I'd say they are the same - the only difference is the missing rank pins (but the patch for them is included) and the badge (which wasn't available when those images were produced).

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If Data's scenes take place in 2408, based on Spock's line that he's been on Romulus for 40 years...but that would invalidate Nero's stardate...Hmmm
Spock's first visit to Romulans would have been in 2344, per Vulcan's Heart, and he first became involved with internal Romulan politics at the time. He may not have been a full-time resident until the 2360s, but if he's speaking in vague terms about his longevity in Romulan society, "forty years" is works.
 
Well, Nero wouldn't know he's from an alternate timeline. Maybe this timeline with Data as an enterprise captain, and the TOs stuff that doesn't match our usual TOS stuff is the timeline that ends up being zapped in favor of the already established TOs continuity?


No, Orci's made it pretty clear that the events of the movie create a new timeline that runs parallel with the old one -- allowing the filmmakers to go their own route in this and subsequent films without worrying about continuity restrictions. This comic is meant to be in the established Trek timeline, and the differences we see are meant to be the result of time passing. As for Data's presence, I assume that will be explained next issue. As for the exterior of the E-E, the comic-book depictions of ST ships are often somewhat stylized. Messina's renderings of Constitution-class ships in Blood Will Tell and the E-D in Intelligence Gathering vary in their accuracy, and even when the overall look is right (as it usually is in BWT), the details can vary. So any discrepancies between the ship in the comic and the E-E we know may simply be artistic license.

Dang, those high collars look uncomfortable.
 
Dang, those high collars look uncomfortable.

One would think, but as it turns out, they're made from soft Corinthian leather.

So is the whole stardate thing at the beginning of the issue an error? It directly conflicts with Spock's line about being on Romulus for forty years (figuring that "Unification" is when when he started, unless he's counting the time he was there in Vulcan's Heart, which would keep the stardate consistent), plus the aforementioned throwaway line from "The Visitor" about 3D console displays and the STO uniforms. I seem to recall a developer from Cryptic Studios wanting to incorporate elements from the movie into STO; I guess elements from STO have worked their way into the backstory for the movie.
 

So if the Romulans (or whoever) want to know the status of The Enterprise all they have to do is read it off the Ops Manager's holographic display floating there in plain view? It's annoying when common sense and logic get thrown out the airlock for a kewl "futuristic" visual.
 
Thanks for the Data pic. To whomever`s doing scanning, can you scan Data`s ship as well?

Also, I remember old Bashir from "The Visitor" stating that in the 25th century, Starfleet vessels have three-dimensional displays. It looks like the comic gives a nod to that! (If Data's scenes take place in 2408, based on Spock's line that he's been on Romulus for 40 years...but that would invalidate Nero's stardate...Hmmm)

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Thanks, Joe. It looks like it IS the Enterprise-E (with some artistic license), although something funky's going on with the nacelle, unless that's just a flaw in the artwork and not some change in the design.
 
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So if the Romulans (or whoever) want to know the status of The Enterprise all they have to do is read it off the Ops Manager's holographic display floating there in plain view? It's annoying when common sense and logic get thrown out the airlock for a kewl "futuristic" visual.

But they are viewing via the enterprise's internal cameras - well..em...er.. an intelligent security program strips out all of that information before transmitting the image. :techman:
 
If I remember right, Spock goes back in time because he realizes something is off. So, could Data being in command of the Enterprise be the first thing that Spock realizes is off? I do not really like the new uniforms, plus they don't seem to match the uniforms from the covers http://media.ideaanddesignworks.com/idw/covers/startrek/movieprequel/STprequelAll-Four_med.jpg

I am also not a big fan of having Data back, he was never one of my favorites and he just seems so played out as a character. The art is great and the story, before the last 2 pages was really good; so for that I give it **1/2 out of ****.
 
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I like the new uniforms. They seem like a pretty good evolution of the current uniforms. I don't know about anybody else, but I actually like these better than the future uniforms that we'd been seeing in the 24th Century series. Red, Gold, Blue.Yes, I am aware that those are from alternate futures that no longer exist, but they did seem to use them consistantly through all of the futures we saw, other than Daniels and VGR's timeships.
 
I do not really like the new uniforms, plus they don't seem to match the uniforms from the covers

Most comic cover art never matches what's actually in the comic; in many cases an entirely different artist draws the cover than the artists who illustrate the story.
 
So if the Romulans (or whoever) want to know the status of The Enterprise all they have to do is read it off the Ops Manager's holographic display floating there in plain view? It's annoying when common sense and logic get thrown out the airlock for a kewl "futuristic" visual.

I assume you mean via the viewscreen while communicating ship-to-ship? Perhaps Federation viewscreens now only show the head and shoulders of the ship commander, as most other viewscreens do, instead of the entire bridge. I've always wondered what would be the in-universe reason for that disparity (out-universe being, of course, that they don't want to build a new set and hire a bunch of extras every time the Enterprise hailed someone...)

I like the holographic displays. I'm looking forward to having that kind of tech on our PCs. :)

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Those uniforms are growing on me every time I see them...sort of like Superman's suit from Superman Returns, didn't like it at first glance but it grew on me, except for the cape. When I saw Data I thought to myself there must be something wrong about this, maybe an alternate timeline, but then Spock acknowledges him as an old friend so I guess we'll have to wait until the next issue to find out about Captain Data!

The ship externally looks like the Enterprise-E to me...and yes I thought about the redesigned Soverign class starship from Online as well but no this looks like E-E and the small glimpse of the bridge appears to have gone through a refit. What is with the earpiece in the female officers ear...Starfleet hasn't used earpieces since TOS time....oh and I'll be getting this in TPB when it comes out in April...flipped through the issue at the comic shop...and found myself enjoying the hell out of it.
 
If I remember right, Spock goes back in time because he realizes something is off. So, could Data being in command of the Enterprise be the first thing that Spock realizes is off?

I haven't heard anything about that being the reason Spock goes back in time. Besides, if the timeline had changed around him, how would he know? He's not Guinan.
 
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