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Star Trek Convention Cancelled DURING Event

Sorry, StolenThunder ... but I don't talk all at once. I cannot control when other people choose to respond to break up posts, but I will do my best to comply.

Sadly, I barely have the time to be IN this conversation, but choose to do so because I don't participate in TrekBBS as much as I should, and this is a good conversation to have. I try to keep as much of my conversation in as few posts as I can, but it's hard to do that when there's a lot to say, and I don't say it all at once (plus, it creates really long posts).

But hey, I'll do my best. :)
 
Sadly, it would appear that yet another promise from Brazeal has been broken. The forums on FedConUSA's site are now down, despite the fact that all concerned were assured that they would remain up to allow attendees to "vent." :mad:
 
Sadly, it would appear that yet another promise from Brazeal has been broken. The forums on FedConUSA's site are now down, despite the fact that all concerned were assured that they would remain up to allow attendees to "vent." :mad:

But are you surprised? This is how Tim Brazeal operates. That is why I put his letter here and not over there ...

They know the hammer is coming down, and it's going to come down hard.
 
Sadly, it would appear that yet another promise from Brazeal has been broken. The forums on FedConUSA's site are now down, despite the fact that all concerned were assured that they would remain up to allow attendees to "vent." :mad:


Yeah, just saw that. Love the note they left:

Due to high numbers of abusive comments made on the forums, we have decided to take the forums offline until further notice.

For information regarding your refund, please contact payments@fedconusa.com (You do not need to email us to recieve your refund, unless you paid in cash on site and did not recieve your refund)

To recieve the digital copy of your photo op, please contact info@shootingstarsimages.com

For all other enquiries, please contact info@fedconusa.com

Translation: Shit, the actors are telling the fans to call the cops and sue our asses, delete, delete, delete, delete.

Goddess, I hope people printed out the bulk of those threads.
 
Richard Anderson has taken FedCon offline!

Due to high numbers of abusive comments made on the forums, we have decided to take the forums offline until further notice. For information regarding your refund, please contact payments@fedconusa.com (You do not need to email us to recieve your refund, unless you paid in cash on site and did not recieve your refund). To recieve the digital copy of your photo op, please contact info@shootingstarsimages.com. For all other enquiries, please contact info@fedconusa.com

I've archived some of the more improtant goodies from today. There's even a prophetic three-year old quote from TRexx.

These are all from Enterprise Project Ghost at FedConUSA.

This reminds me so much of 3 years ago. Michael reported the problems with the Save Enterprise/TrekUnited campaign and the Branch Brazealans (I heard that for the first time today and it's so appropiate that I have to use it) decide that Michael is some sort of rumor monger and a liar. Doesn't matter that Michael was proven right and his reporting was ahead of the curve. Within days of his inital reports other websites like TrekWeb picked up on the story. Soon after Scifi.com, TV Guide and the LA Times all ran with the story. In a lot of cases they just rereported the information that Michael had already reported. But the bottom line, Michael was right, his reporting was accurate, and he was a major thorn in the side of TrekUnited/Brazeal.

I do indeed remember that Michael. You were more than patient and reported and watched as everything came to pass. It just amazes me that this whole situation is so similar to the Save Enterprise debacle of 3 years ago. Brazeal made promises then that he couldn't keep, and he has done the same thing now.

In 2005 many of us were throwing red flags all over the place about this guy. Now in 2008 much of what we warned about has come to pass. Except this "incident" dwarfs the Enterprise disaster. Save Enterprise never got off the ground, and the only people hurt were the fans who donated money to the cause. Here not only were fans hurt, but dealers who wasted a weekend where they made no money, and most importanlty the "talent" who will never forget that they "used" by this convention.

Bottom line, the only "contribution" that Tim Brazeal has ever made to Star Trek and SF in general is to give it a black eye.

And I am proud to say that 3 years ago I was involved with the hunt for the truth then! Indeed, I got to know Michael back then through an exchange of emails as I gave him some insight into how Brazeal data mined the mailing list of the Enterprise Project and basically killed that group by stripping members away from that organization and folding them into the Save Enterprise group.

My opinion of Michael, for what it's worth, is that he is a good reporter, who knows his beat and reports the facts.

So, yeah, I've watched this transpire since almost day one. We can only hope that this will be the beginning of the end..................

Here is the quote from TRexx who did a lot of investigative reporting for TrekWeb about 3 years ago. I also played a part in it because I discovered that Brazeal was using the mailing list for AA to send unsolicited email to Trek Toy fans to help start up his Save Enterprise Campaign. This was a clear violation for the AA Terms of Service for their Forums, no one was allowed to use the emails of members to send unsolicited information,even the Boards Administrator, which is what Brazeal was at the time.

Here is Trexx's quote:
"Brazeal has used misinformation and hyperbole in an attempt to make Trek United appear credible. And his underhanded incompetence didn't stop at driving the Art Asylum Collector's Club into the ground, where he took money from AACC members and failed to deliver products or refunds. Perhaps you've already heard that Brazeal then recycled the AACC PayPal account to collect donations for Save Enterprise and Trek United -- at which point AACC members mysteriously started receiving refunds from PayPal with SE/TU named as the source. You could've read much about this at the Art Asylum Bulletin Board, except that Brazeal has apparently used his Administrator position there to delete damning messages and entire threads. When AACC members brought their grievance to the TU BBS, the matter was first whitewashed and then the message threads deleted (I made full webpage copies of some of these, before they disappeared.)"

Also the Pegasus Collectables listed a bunch of Texas contacts in case one wanted to launch a case of fraud, but I didn't save that.
 
A bunch of stuff on this has also been echoed in the BSG Galactica forum.

http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2309918

from the link

"You have my permission to put up note re FEDCON that I am not there because I was "dis-invited". Or rather "stood-up". That they just stopped communicating. So my bags were packed, my pack of cigars, my bundles of sexy Face/Starbuck photos....and am still waiting to hear from them''.
-Dirk Benedict
 
Y'know, I wasn't there, and *I* am pissed.

Cripes, that guy is a worm.

Billingsley, you are DA MAN.


Tony
 
Goddess, I hope people printed out the bulk of those threads.

I printed out a lot of them through Sunday. I can scan what I have to pdf if anyone needs it. They aren't incredibly organized and are pdfs so someone else probably has a better version.

I am really glad that someone saved what Chris wrote. I went to the fedcon forums to print his post out but it had already been locked down. I think that is the most important piece of information that I have seen in this whole mess.

I also have my own video of the announcement that fedcon was cancelled. I haven't decided if I want to mess with putting it up on youtube though.

~rav
 
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Live everything Brazeal ever did, they to were a complete lie.


It was a serious comment, not "throwing it in your face." If I was throwing in your face I'd been LMAO and saying "Told ya' so." But it is a serious thought to ponder: How badly did SE get screwed over cause of the way Tim handles things.

You're right about that.
I've been starting to wonder if those "3 Anonymous donors" from the space or science industry even existed.
 
Are you using your employment with American Airlines to score tickets for an outside venture, and if so, has that been authorized by AA?

BINGO Mike! I've been wondering about that one since I first heard about it. I suspect that he is using "jump" seating to get his speakers to and from events. The most interesting piece of evidence about this is that Brazeal promised Dirk from FedCon Germany that he would fly him to the states first class and it ended up being economy. "Jump" seating is almost always economy.

To clarify, Jump seating are unsold seats on a flight that airline employees can use to go from site to site, for either very reduced rates or for free.

Way to go Tim!
 
Are you using your employment with American Airlines to score tickets for an outside venture, and if so, has that been authorized by AA?

BINGO Mike! I've been wondering about that one since I first heard about it. I suspect that he is using "jump" seating to get his speakers to and from events. The most interesting piece of evidence about this is that Brazeal promised Dirk from FedCon Germany that he would fly him to the states first class and it ended up being economy. "Jump" seating is almost always economy.

To clarify, Jump seating are unsold seats on a flight that airline employees can use to go from site to site, for either very reduced rates or for free.

Way to go Tim!

Actually, this isn't quite right. Having lived with a certain flight attendant who shall remain nameless, I can tell you that jump seats are the seats that fold down that only flight attendants can sit in - the ones you see them in during takeoffs and landings. Flight attendants and pilots often use spare jump seats to commute to their base when they live in another city - if there are two flight attendants working a flight and four jump seats on the plane, then two flight attendants or pilots can get on that flight for their commute and sit in those two open fold-down jump seats.

But these are NOT economy seats that can be sold to customers. In fact, it is against FAA regulations for non-crew to sit in the jump seats.

Now, if the plane is not full, a commuting flight attendant or pilot can move to a vacant 'regular' seat from the jump seat. But revenue passengers obviously get first dibs on those. Further, it is often difficult for a commuting FA to even get a jump seat - sometimes they might have to commute to base a day early because all the jump seats on the day they start work are already full with other FAs or pilots who are also trying to commute to base.

I'm not saying Brazeal didn't use AA inappropriately. But I can tell you that he did NOT book a paying passenger into a jump seat. It's against FAA regs.

You might be talking about another whole issue - non-revenue flying. Under that program, airline employees can book flights for reduced rates. Generally, only they and their immediate families can do this - it is not open to friends, business associates, or whatever. If a FA wants to take a friend along, that is allowed IF THERE IS ROOM (after paying passengers, airline employees commuting to base, other airline employees, and immediate family of airline employees - there is a hierarchy that must be gone through before a 'friend' can get on a flight - it is NOT first-come, first serve by any means.), but the friend must fly WITH the airline employee. Friends cannot fly unattended - they must be WITH the airline employee.

So for Brazeal to fly a non-relative in from Germany, he'd have to go to Germany and accompany him back - on a flight where that whole hierarchy of people with higher priority had been accommodated first.
 
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Instead of "jump seating" the term you should be using is non revenue. It's basically flying stand by, meaning that if there are available seats in first or coach, a non revenue passenger can stand by for those seats. These are benefits given to most active and retired employees of major airlines. As long as they don't sell the seats for a profit, they are free to share their benefits with whom they please in most cases.

With that having been said, the guy is still a crook. You don't book convention guests using non revenue tickets because the seating is not confirmed. If the flight is full then they don't get on.
 
Instead of "jump seating" the term you should be using is non revenue. It's basically flying stand by, meaning that if there are available seats in first or coach, a non revenue passenger can stand by for those seats. These are benefits given to most active and retired employees of major airlines. As long as they don't sell the seats for a profit, they are free to share their benefits with whom they please in most cases.

Also not quite true. Unless they are immediate family of the airline employee (wife, husband, brother, sister, mother, father, child, domestic partner) they usually must be accompanied by the airline employee on the non-rev flight.

And once again, these sorts of passengers are at the absolute bottom of the food chain - after everyone else in the hierarchy has been seated.

This is how it is on Northwest Airlines, anyway.
 
I don't want to violate forum rules, by posting to much to fast, but I just want to say something. Michael can vouch for me on this because he and I have been doing some emailing for the last few days. Over at the SciFi forums and FedConUSA forums my username is Enterprise Project Ghost.

For those who don't remember, the Enterprise Project was the first fan group that organized to work on getting a 4th season of Enterprise. It was a true fan group. It was run by two charming women and had a fairly large members group. I was lucky enough to be one of the first 10 members of the group and was fairly active with them. Unfortunatly for the group, a Mr. Tim Brazeal joined. Within days he had datamined all the email addresses of all the members and sent email out to most of them telling them about this great organization he was starting called Save Enterprise. His actions pretty much killed The Enterprise Project. It continued to exist, but it stopped growing in membership, and had a difficult time in raising capital to take out ads in various publications to showcase Enterprise. Brazeal's actions had "Sucked up the oxygen in the room."

This was not Brazeal's first time building his "empire" off the back of others. He did the same thing with the Art Asylum fan group. As the administrator of their forums he had access to all members email accounts. To everyone who was a member of the Star Trek Toy Forum he sent out an email talking about his latest venture "Save Enterprise", it total violation of the TOS for thos forums.

Oh yeah, I know my Brazeals' Character...................


Richard Anderson has taken FedCon offline!

 
You are correct Trekgirl, I used the wrong term, it was indeed Non Revenue Seating that I was thinking out. It's to early here in New England, we all had a long night celebrating a Boston Celtics victory.

As far as Brazeal goes, their is still something fishy about his use of AA. I seem to recall he made a claim to someone in association with Fedcon USA that since he worked for AA he could fly people all over the place, at little or no cost.
 
Also not quite true. Unless they are immediate family of the airline employee (wife, husband, brother, sister, mother, father, child, domestic partner) they usually must be accompanied by the airline employee on the non-rev flight.

This is how it is on Northwest Airlines, anyway.

It varies from airline to airline actually. I know what you mean about Northwest. My aunt retired after working for them. Their rules stipulate that the employee has to accompany anyone who is not immediate family. But I also have relatives who work for AA and United. They don't have those rules. The passenger has to be input into the system before hand but after that they can fly without the employee accompanying them.
 
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