Poll STAR TREK CONTINUES: "To Boldly Go (Parts I & II)" - Grading & Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by Firebird, Nov 17, 2017.

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Rate the STC finale

  1. 5 (Excellent)

    40 vote(s)
    44.0%
  2. 4 (Very good)

    30 vote(s)
    33.0%
  3. 3 (Good)

    10 vote(s)
    11.0%
  4. 2 (Fair)

    4 vote(s)
    4.4%
  5. 1 (Poor)

    7 vote(s)
    7.7%
  1. STEPhon IT

    STEPhon IT Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I called it as I see it.
    A series of fanfilms claiming to pay homage to TOS felt compelled to honor whatever was done after the series was cancelled. After Star Trek, it seemed GR was drinking the kool-aid of being this great bird of the galaxy, probably started from the Trek-conventions, and started thinking he was some kind of visionary.

    Having these ships be obliterated in STC so easily don't honor how durable and special these Star Ships were. Sad to think "A Mirror Darkly pt. II" and "The Tressaurian Intersection" were only creative pieces who got it right. These Starship Class vessels were something to behold.
     
  2. STEPhon IT

    STEPhon IT Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I'll make you happy. STC is the greatest series ever. Better than TOS.
     
  3. Kor

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    According to Memory Alpha, the technical diagram with the "Constitution Class" label was originally intended to be used in Space Seed based on direction from the script, but ultimately, the diagram did not actually appear until The Trouble with Tribbles.

    Linky: http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Starship_class

    In any case, it's absolutely impossible for us to read the tiny text appearing on Scotty's computer monitor in The Trouble with Tribbles, or on the monitor in the briefing room in The Enterprise Incident.

    I'm OK with the Enterprise being considered "Starship Class" within the context of TOS.

    Kor
     
  4. alensatemybuick1

    alensatemybuick1 Captain Captain

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    I’ll never understand why people continue to engage in these “spin your wheels” kinds of arguments that can never be settled definitivlty. I’m just glad the creators of STC (and other enjoyable fan films) decide to spend their time on more useful pursuits.

    By the way, watched “The Deadly Years” today, and noted that when the Enterprise accelerated to warp when escaping the Romulans, Kirk, Sulu and Checkov were pushed back in their chairs in such a manner that suggested quite clearly that the view screen faces directly forward and that Uhura’s station (and not the turbo lift) faces directly aft. :)
     
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  5. Bixby

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    Hmmm, like people have been discussing Star Trek in the same way for over 50 years, maybe?
     
  6. alensatemybuick1

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    Sure..but the same exact arguments over and over again? Seems kinda a waste of bandwidth (like, oh I dunno, repeating the same exact criticisms of STC over and over).
     
  7. Warped9

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    If you can’t stand hearing the same things “over and over” then how can you stand spending time on a Trek website?
     
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  8. USS Excelsior

    USS Excelsior Commodore Commodore

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    I guess to seeing an NX model on display in an office must have been blasphemy for some.
     
  9. GNDN18

    GNDN18 I'm sorry to have to be the one to show you Premium Member

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    36° offset or NOTHING!
    Yeah, about that … it wasn’t the most egregious example. 22803FF7-9B06-483E-AA00-A3214315F699.jpeg
    (This isn’t a dig on Disco; I was just horrified when I first saw the McQuarrie design and astonished that it was even considered for anything, anywhere. De gustibus and all that.)
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  10. Warped9

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    My lungs ended up in the floor.
     
  11. fireproof78

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    I believe that was the intent all along. Similarly to the San Paulo in DS9 being rechristened to the Defiant, the ENT-A was originally the Yorktown and rechristened.
     
  12. alensatemybuick1

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  13. Maurice

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    One wonders whose idea it was to use "Constitution Class" in the not-clearly-seen image for "Space Seed". It's specified in the script, but Jefferies sure wasn't involved in the script writing, and so far as I know he never used it on anything he drew for the rest of the series (see the aforementioned "Space Cruiser" from the 3rd season).
     
  14. Warped9

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    Matt Jefferies.
     
  15. alensatemybuick1

    alensatemybuick1 Captain Captain

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    Every hobby / field of interest has these arguments; with Oldsmobiles, its the existence of a "solid main web" (SMW) 403 motor that is as hotly debated.

    In THIS post in another thread where the topic of what class ship the Enterprise is was debated, the late Greg Schnitzer summed things up rather nicely:

    from: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/ncc-not-constitution-class.187942/page-4#post-7436830

     
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  16. Maurice

    Maurice Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Based on what?
     
  17. Warped9

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    He drew the schematic.
     
  18. USS Excelsior

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    And would explain Jefferies tubes
     
  19. Maurice

    Maurice Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    As I said up-thread, Jefferies drew the schematic, but the script in two places mentioned the diagrams being captioned "Constitution Class", so who was the one who came up with that? That was my point. Jefferies including text called for in the script doesn't mean he originated it.

    And the crew tended to call objects by who made/handled them, hence so many props being called "Feinbergs" property master Irving A. "Irv" Feinberg.
     
  20. Warped9

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    If I recall correctly the “phaser bank” is actually an aircraft part and I was pretty sure MJ drew it. And I was pretty sure MJ came up with the name of the ship class.