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Actually, we don't know in universe when the Enterprise launched. We know it was in service in the mid-2250's, when Pike and Spock were aboard. But, she could've been launched new then, or she could've launched in 2210.
If I had a nickel for every time someone refused to reveal their sources because they were party to an NDA...
Actually you probably know as well as I that…
"Multiple production sources, including an unseen display screen intended for use in "In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II", the Star Trek Encyclopedia, and The Making of Star Trek, give the Enterprise launch date as 2245. Since this date dovetails nicely with Gene Roddenberry's apparent beliefs as well as the conjectural dates of Robert April's captaincy and Larry Marvick's design timeline, fans generally accept it, despite the absence of concrete canonical evidence for it."
I could also add several official and licensed products as well as this:
http://www.startrek.com/database_article/enterprise
It doesn't get more official than startrek.com
Anything else you've got to add probably better belongs in this thread:
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/build-date-of-the-original-u-s-s-enterprise.280471/
Ah, conjecture...
Speculation's nerdy older sister.
If I had a nickel for every time someone refused to reveal their sources because they were party to an NDA...
Just to be 100% clear…
no I have not seen Paramount's books. Ovation asked a question in a sarcastic tone so I replied with the same tone.To paraphrase McCoy, regarding TOS I feel safer about Gene Roddenberry's guesses than most other people's facts.
But it was never a guess by Roddenberry. Roddenberry left things intentionally vague until TMP, then we were given the nebulous, "23rd Century" in the advertising. By the time we get 2364 in "The Neutral Zone", Roddenberry was very hands off.
Everyone can have an opinion or conjecture, but there is no canon when the Enterprise launched. You want to count April? Great. But then you have to discount the Bonaventure in "The Time Trap" because Enterprise contradicts it. Enterprise also contradicts several episodes of the various spinoffs, by the NX-01's very existence. Data is a member of the 'Class of '78' and Morrow says the Enterprise is twenty years old in The Search for Spock.
So, at the end of the day, it is big-dollar make believe.
It WOULD be nice to eventually know the official launch date of the U.S.S. Enterprise.
I don't know? I think being vague has served Star Trek fans well over the years. It has allowed us to have imagination and conjecture, and form the universe to our own personal interpretations.
Like I already said...
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/build-date-of-the-original-u-s-s-enterprise.280471/
I don't see any post of yours in that thread. May want to narrow down what post is yours, I'm old.
Sure... but for something somewhat significant why not have a specific date?
In universe, she was one of twelve, and no more special than the rest. I personally don't see a need for a specific date. It keeps folks from screaming "canon violation" and "this writer is raping my childhood!", if someone decides they want to do something different.
While I find the tears entertaining, I don't think most folks feel the same.
I guess I haven't fallen down that particular rabbit hole, but knowing how nutsy some Trek fans get, I guess you are probably right.
I know this is just copy-pasted from Memory Alpha, but what exactly are the "conjectural dates of Larry Marvick's design timeline"?
Using as a guide the age of the actor at the time the episode was produced, Marvick must have been designing the Enterprise... in his mid-teens?
"Jim, the Enterprise is TWENTY YEARS OLD. We feel her day is over." -Admiral Morrow, Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
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