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This Kirk is always getting beaten up.
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Half the people on this board can't seem to care, I doubt the 99% of the audience of the movie will either.

Precisely and agreed. My own thoughts on this are in the other thread on this website.

However, the studio for PR reasons, still needs to be seen to have played nice to fans at a public event.

This event is their chance to play host, to say welcome to 'my house', have a seat, enjoy a drink.

Show people they are nice. If even half the remaining 0.01% of fans who still even feel slightly hard done by the studio change their point of view, then :beer:

To summarise, this event will be a win, win, win for Paramount.
 
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An unscientific poll. According to this one from Trekmovie.com, more fans are excited for the movie than the TV show. While this might seem understandable as the movie comes out months before the series will, the internet would have you believe it is the exact opposite. This is the only sample I have to draw from currently though:


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They should further refine the poll to also ask if their sample is also excited to pay CBS to watch commercials.
 
Nice. Looking forward to seeing what Krall's "well earned hatred" looks like.
While the Federation wouldn't outright conquer other powers like the Klingons would, I could easily see them moving in and surrounding a society, undercutting their trade deals (not maliciously, just because the Federation has better resources and drives a better bargain), forcing change by-proxy (society A has to stop a certain behavior to join the Federation, and society B used to depend on or subsidize that behavior, so society B is forced to change even though it never entered into a treaty with the Federation), and blocking access to allies (society A is allied/trades with the Romulans, and now Federation territory has expanded around them and established a Neutral Zone with the Romulans, cutting off trade and a strategic partner).

In a way it would be like the Walmartization or gentrification of the galaxy, and the people getting trampled on by the Federation's expansion into their territory on the frontier are fed up by it and finally willing to push back under the guidance of a charismatic leader like Krall.

That's at least my guess at a possible direction for the plot of the film to go, given the comments about Krall's motivations and the multi-species makeup of his forces in the Swarm.
 
Did I miss something? Where does the idea come from that the Swarm is a mutli species thing? As far as I know, the aliens we've seen in the trailer are not connected to the Swarm at all!
 
Did I miss something? Where does the idea come from that the Swarm is a mutli species thing? As far as I know, the aliens we've seen in the trailer are not connected to the Swarm at all!
Just a guess based on the fact that Sophia Boutella's character Jaylah is shown fighting two different aliens that look vaguely like a Jem'Hadar and Killer Croc, respectively, then she and Kirk are shown beaming away from the prison facility (mostly guarded by Krall's forces with their body armor and arm guns) after she shoves another Jem'Hadar looking guy aside. They could just be very involved prisoners, I suppose, but they had uniforms/armor and electronic equipment hanging from them.

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Krall's people are by far the main force, and probably make up all or most of the Swarm fighter crews, but I got the impression that those other aliens might be their allies. It also fits with Krall's declaration that "this is where the frontier pushes back."
 
In a way it would be like the Walmartization or gentrification of the galaxy, and the people getting trampled on by the Federation's expansion into their territory on the frontier are fed up by it and finally willing to push back under the guidance of a charismatic leader like Krall.
That's pretty good!
 
I think Krall doesn't agree with the Central Government perspectives pro-Federation. He believes Central Government is going along the wrong path. I think something happened in the past, bad things happened because of Federation or perhaps he honestly thinks Federation is guilty. Maybe Federation is demarcating the territory (in this system) that he believes to belong his people and the Central Government agree with these terms of use.
I think Jaylah is not pro Federation, but Krall has done something bad to her people. So, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
 
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