Somehow the movie that got good user and critical scores and did more money than any other Trek film ever, is somehow responsible?
I guess that Into Darkness is somehow responsible for box office being down across the board?
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Somehow the movie that got good user and critical scores and did more money than any other Trek film ever, is somehow responsible?
I guess that Into Darkness is somehow responsible for box office being down across the board?
I'll be going with 3 colleagues tonight to bump the Australian total up!
I'm not worried. I know a lot of people who just couldn't get to the movies this past weekend who are planning to see it this coming weekend. I will go see it at least one more time if not twice. I saw STID 3 times opening weekend. I just didn't have the time on this one to see it that many times. I think its just a busy time of year and we have more things that are splitting our attention.
There are so many variables.
Right now, if we just compare numbers, obviously STiD would be seen as successful.
However, almost every article I read will say something like STiD was 'unpopular', 'not a fan favourite' and a 'stumble'; and thank goodness STB has brought things back on track.
On balance, all we can say is the first 4 TOS movies were a success and the 3 reboot movies have been comparatively, just as successful.
If the James Bond formula is to be followed for longevity, then 4 or maybe 5 movies at most, is the duration with which to use the same cast.
Remember, everything not called Deadpool or Captain America has underperformed this year. It's the most bloated year for must-see blockbusters ever.
But did it? If the box office is bad compared to Into Darkness and Star Trek (2009), can someone really say things are "back on track"? It shows a massive disconnect where some Star Trek fans are concerned.
Some folks are going to use Beyond's lackluster box office as the opportunity to take another swipe at Into Darkness.
And Pike told the Talosians that he was "from a stellar group at the other end of this galaxy," so it's just part of the Milky Way.
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That's the thing.
For all it's faults, perceive or otherwise, if STiD handsomely tops STB at the box office, which movie can we say was more successful?
More than I reviewer has said things are back on track, but for all the fans like us to who we enjoyed STB, the box office just hasn't reflected that.
Is STiD to blame?
Maybe for the 100 people who voted it the worst Star Trek movie ever.
The bigger picture this year is that aside from May and some children's films, the rest of the summer has been slow.
STB will still be one of the more successful movie this summer and will get close to, if not just over $200m.
That's the risk a studio takes when they start listening to talking heads.
I love Beyond. But it can be a tough sell when Earth isn't somehow involved, where general audiences are concerned. I know someone with bring up Guardians of the Galaxy, but it had the Marvel marketing machine behind it.
I'm thinking $170-$180m.
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Beyond currently has the 9th highest grossing opening weekend of 2016. That ain't too shabby for a Star Trek film on a year that is woefully disappointing. It will likely drop at least to 10th with Rogue One in December.
To compare, Into Darkness came in at #11 in 2013, Star Trek came in #6 in 2009, Nemesis #33 in 2002, and Insurrection #15 in 1998. (The remaining films were all top 10 opening weekends of the year.)
To compare, Into Darkness came in at #11 in 2013, Star Trek came in #6 in 2009, Nemesis #33 in 2002, and Insurrection #15 in 1998. (The remaining films were all top 10 opening weekends of the year.)
And it's only going to get worse in the coming years, which is why I think they need to try something different with ST4.
I think Suicide Squad will likely pass it, as well.
I don't know anything about projecting box office and all that stuff so I'll let the suits worry about it.
In the meantime, I will just say that I enjoyed seeing a really good Star Trek movie. That's something I haven't been able to say in a very long time.
In the meantime, I will just say that I enjoyed seeing a really good Star Trek movie. That's something I haven't been able to say in a very long time.
I'd like them to take a crack at remaking either "Where No Man Has Gone Before" or "The Cage".
I don't know if I want them to go with more remakes or rehashes--but definitely something of that ilk.
I mean, Marvel is going stronger than ever, and DC is doing their damnedest to catch up to them. There's a new Star Wars every year now. nuPotter. And the new nuBond. Probably more Jason Bourne Again. More 80s hits to exploit. Stargate reboot. Whatever Bay is doing next.
Between now and at least 2020, there's going to be a genre blockbuster almost every weekend. And of all the franchises, Star Trek is in the best place to take a step back.
I used to be of the mind that it needed to do the action thing, but STB's BO mediocrity has me second guessing that. I think it's time to admit the franchise is plateaued. So why not offer something different?
I guess the question becomes, is it doing mediocre because of the climate or is it simply being rejected by audiences? Tough question for Paramount to answer.
Problem being, they have to do something to differentiate themselves from Discovery.
Not "The Cage". Too cerebral.
The box office in the US will be lucky to cross $200 million. That says less about the quality of STB or the market for it than it does the state of movie-going in general this year. I don't want to get into the entire "making money" thing, but the production budget according to Box Office MoJo was $185 million, so the international markets are going to have to come up big.
It does seem quite popular. I'm still coping with how I feel about it. I gave it an A- because it has a lot of fine points, but something about it didn't hit me like ST09 and STID did. And STID is still my favorite, actually. At the same time, my wife and oldest daughter called it their favorite (my wife's been through them all with me since TFF), and it's the first Trek movie my youngest teen ever liked. She's even going to see it again with me this weekend. My oldest popped ST09 into the DVD player to watch it again, saying she didn't like it much at first, but because she enjoyed STID and STB so much, she wants to give it a chance, now. I liked it, but how in the world did I become the one in the family to like it the least?
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