Upon reflection, I think it means he's pulling the strings.
After all, it is the hand of God.
After all, it is the hand of God.
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Since the subject is palming, lets not speculate on what...well yeah.
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I'm not going to lie: I watched this video and forgot my name for a few minutes.
Also, damn.
And do remember, STV could have had all those things and still been a great movie!
I think you actually have something of a point - but my prspective is different - both the new films and STV get the same things right about TOS.
Star Trek V did have all that & more, and it was a good film, it just was lacking in other areas, but it is not "the worst" that title belongs solely to Star Trek Nemesis... Say what you want about Shatner at least he was trying to make a good film... Nemesis felt like a 2 part TNG episode, not something for the big screen, and that's why we are were we are now... Back to square one, plus 2 movies later ;-)
I'm actually a fan of STV because I like the characters so much. Other ST movies have better plots & effects but are still less fun to watch.
Well said.
I think you may be confusing Nemesis with Insurrection, which is the one most people say was like a TNG two-parter.
I think both of those films are pretty bad.
You mean Star Wars or Star Trek ?
I won't watch it in the cinema, this is 99.99% certain, I am a big fan of Star Trek and Star Wars, have been since I was 8, first time I saw a Star Trek IV film on a TV in my living room as a child. I wanted to see it again and again after that.
Star Wars too...
Anyhow, when I say something i/e I stick to it. I might see the film when it comes out on TV, however I am not a hater, I watched both Star Trek film re-boots, hated 2nd, liked 1st. However if you we had a poll on this thread and simple questions asked do you like or hate Star Trek Beyond trailer, you'd find many hated it.
Based on that trailer alone I won't be seeing next star trek film, it stinks of commercialism and little substance. I'd rather watch something with a decent story line. Some of my Star Trek friends might go and see it, I am saying they might two or three of them, however everyone else I know won't see it, they have less than kind words for STB.
Star Wars just crossed $1,000,000,000 globally.
Perhaps you didn't tell enough people about your boycott?
Avatar made 2.7 billion, most if not all Marvel films made $1.2-1bn. Just cause film makes a billion doesn't mean I have to be a tool and follow the crowd, I have my opinion and stick to it, as to me telling anyone to boycott the film why would I do that, if ppl want to watch this film, it is their business, who am I to stop them from doing that ???
If I boycott something, I boycott it as an individual, never have or will ask others to boycott something, we live in a free society as a free man with choices, why would anyone impede these freedoms. My personal philosophy is, it is your life, you're master of it, do what ever you want with it. I am a liberal, a socialist, an atheist and a progressive on most issues, (oppose gun ownership and death sentence), however I believe it is non of my business what you do with your money, how you spend it, so to tell anyone not to watch something or spend money on something would be against my own principles. You're an adult, grown up enough to make your own decisions. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone else's here, however you should respect other opinions if you wish your opinions to be respected.
I think I answered why I won't be watching the film and won't be spending my money, hope that satisfies most of you here. When I make my mind on something I stick to it, and I'd rather spend money on something I'd rather like to see, perhaps next Avatar Film when it comes out in 2017.
Of course a trailer suggests commercialism, because it is a commercial. It's made by a marketing agency, not by the moviemakers. It's the first salvo in a months-long ad campaign for the movie. Between now and July 22, there will be several more trailers and TV ads, a bunch of behind-the-scenes videos and interviews and articles, a whole lot of information of which the teaser trailer is just a small part. You don't have to decide now, based on just the first scrap of information -- you have six and a half months to learn more and then decide.
NEM does have some good action scenes, I give it that....but so much potential is lost. It's just a lifeless movie that is trying to be TWOK; the villain all of a sudden wants to destroy Earth....just because.
Ah, there are some cool soundtrack moments as well(the opening with the Romulan Senate, and the fight between Ron Perlman-Reman and Riker)...but not enough to save the film. A film that was taking place during Trek's decline.
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As big a fan as I am of TOS, I believe Nemesis is a superior movie to The Final Frontier.
The Final Frontier is a very worthy film with alot of good and original elements. The relationship is sorely tested -- but doesn't buckle -- between the iconic triumvirate of Kirk, McCoy and Spock despite Sybok's very profound and unnerving appeals and this is the film where the trio's relationship reaches their apogee as they arrive at the winter of their long careers. Great scenes. And the way Sybok completely flummoxes Spock is something that intrigues me if noone else. Spock has spent his life struggling with his human side, Sybok performs his feats quite easily and has a very sociable and charismatic sway with people. Such an extravagant contrast with Spock, it throws Spock completely!
Nemesis is a fair TV movie but it is cobbled together from other constituent elements of earlier Trek and it's unsurprising it's the end of the line for BermanTrek, creatively. But despite all that I consider it solid if unoriginal fare.
Nemesis is a fair TV movie but it is cobbled together from other constituent elements of earlier Trek and it's unsurprising it's the end of the line for BermanTrek, creatively. But despite all that I consider it solid if unoriginal fare.
I agree, I definitely enjoy STV more than Nemesis or Insurrection. Nemesis is a tired movie that seems to draaaag on forever, I just want to sleep during it. It feels like an hour-long script stretched over two hours, done in the most mind numbingly predictable way. STV kept my attention, and the main 3 characters are rock solid. And it's creative. (some might call it borderline experimental)
TFF has some truly great moments--some of the best of the entire franchise. On the other hand, it also has some truly terrible moments.
In other words, it's what should have been a real gem of a film (probably the best of the bunch) was buried under a big pile of shit.
In other words, it's what should have been a real gem of a film (probably the best of the bunch) was buried under a big pile of shit.
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