Star Trek Beyond predictions?

[M'Sharak]

I predict it won't make as much money as TFA

Now this is a wish that has little place in reality. trek doing even 700 million Worldwide will be a thrill.

You may want to read again what he actually wrote, Dales, and then promptly retract your smug putdown.

 

[HIjol]

Optimistic.

ConfiHopeful!

Ran some numbers and some "Best Guesses" on upfront salaries and post-production costs, and compared them to Nu1 and Nu2...should be doable, and I am hopeful that if Nu3 does do the numbers, it will be enough to motivate a Nu4.

 

[Trekkin]

I predict that Kirk and Spock will have eye-sex at least twice.

 

[Smellmet]

Optimistic.

ConfiHopeful!

Ran some numbers and some "Best Guesses" on upfront salaries and post-production costs, and compared them to Nu1 and Nu2...should be doable, and I am hopeful that if Nu3 does do the numbers, it will be enough to motivate a Nu4.

It's doable, but it's at they very limit of expectations in my opinion. As long as it improves on 467million worldwide, we're good for a fourth I would say. 600 million is the realistic target in my view.

 

[Admiral Bear]

As long as it improves on 467million worldwide, we're good for a fourth I would say. 600 million is the realistic target in my view.

$600m? Not a chance. The high end of between $400-500m is more likely, but even I think that's expecting too much. Into Darkness took considerably less at the US box office than Star Trek 2009. Assuming that trend continues, you're then expecting overseas markets to pick up a hell of a lot of slack (in excess of $100m on top of Darkness foreign take), and quite simply, overseas demand for Star Trek just isn't there in that quantity.

The important thing here isn't what it takes in box office so much, it's box office takings in relation to the production budget.

 

[SPCTRE]

The absence of middle-class white people as the victims means Star Trek Beyond already has a major headstart over Insurrection

I dunno man, those Ba'ku assholes seemed pretty top 1% to me

 

[HIjol]

As long as it improves on 467million worldwide, we're good for a fourth I would say. 600 million is the realistic target in my view.

$600m? Not a chance. The high end of between $400-500m is more likely, but even I think that's expecting too much. Into Darkness took considerably less at the US box office than Star Trek 2009. Assuming that trend continues, you're then expecting overseas markets to pick up a hell of a lot of slack (in excess of $100m on top of Darkness foreign take), and quite simply, overseas demand for Star Trek just isn't there in that quantity.

The important thing here isn't what it takes in box office so much, it's box office takings in relation to the production budget.

After Box and DVD and Merch? That is what I was talking about, not just Box. Or maybe srill dreaming...


Recently Simon Pegg had an interview with Associated Press to talk about the upcoming 'Star Trek Beyond' aka 'Star Trek 3'.

According to Simon Pegg, 'Star Trek Beyond will be, "It's going to be spectacular, but we're going to underpin that with some genuine 50th Anniversary ideas about what's happening in our world and the Star Trek world and try to make it a bit thoughtful too."


~~excerpt taken from full interview


http://www.crossmap.com/news/star-t...about-the-concept-of-the-upcoming-movie-22158

Terrorism? Plague? Genocide? County Clerks run amuck and not doing their jobs?

I am pretty darned excited!

 

[F. King Daniel]

It's gonna be a film about nerds complaining that things aren't exactly the same as they used to be, over and over again!

 

[RAMA]

Speculation on the plot from Moviepilot

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3622684?lt_source=external,manual,manual,manual,manual

To Wrap It All Up

So essentially, I think Kirk is going to be the one to cause Elba's character to go all "end-of-the-world" bad guy due to side effects from Khan's blood. The Enterprise is on it's 5 year journey to go where no man has gone before, so we will most likely see a time jump from where the second film left off. And since we know Elba's character is part of a new alien race, it would make sense that the "twist" he speaks of is Kirk going crazy and attacking or destroying his people, causing Elba to retaliate by doing the same to Kirk's home - Earth. Let's not forget Spock and Bones' - they will be spending a lot of time together, after all, which leads me to believe that Kirk has to have gone rogue and that the two will be doing everything in their power to save him (even working with Khan and the other 72 enhanced to fix him) as well as fighting for their planet's survival. Finally, with the 50th anniversary approaching and Pegg stating he will be paying homage to the original series in this upcoming third installment, it makes sense that the "Search For Spock" would turn into a "Search For Kirk" kind of story.

 

[RAMA]

As long as it improves on 467million worldwide, we're good for a fourth I would say. 600 million is the realistic target in my view.

$600m? Not a chance. The high end of between $400-500m is more likely, but even I think that's expecting too much. Into Darkness took considerably less at the US box office than Star Trek 2009. Assuming that trend continues, you're then expecting overseas markets to pick up a hell of a lot of slack (in excess of $100m on top of Darkness foreign take), and quite simply, overseas demand for Star Trek just isn't there in that quantity.

The important thing here isn't what it takes in box office so much, it's box office takings in relation to the production budget.

$500mill+ for an anniversay movie isnt unrealistic.

RAMA

 

[ancient]

The 3rd one will have an angry guy with a big ship taking revenge.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

Speculation on the plot from Moviepilot

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3622684?lt_source=external,manual,manual,manual,manual

To Wrap It All Up

So essentially, I think Kirk is going to be the one to cause Elba's character to go all "end-of-the-world" bad guy due to side effects from Khan's blood. The Enterprise is on it's 5 year journey to go where no man has gone before, so we will most likely see a time jump from where the second film left off. And since we know Elba's character is part of a new alien race, it would make sense that the "twist" he speaks of is Kirk going crazy and attacking or destroying his people, causing Elba to retaliate by doing the same to Kirk's home - Earth. Let's not forget Spock and Bones' - they will be spending a lot of time together, after all, which leads me to believe that Kirk has to have gone rogue and that the two will be doing everything in their power to save him (even working with Khan and the other 72 enhanced to fix him) as well as fighting for their planet's survival. Finally, with the 50th anniversary approaching and Pegg stating he will be paying homage to the original series in this upcoming third installment, it makes sense that the "Search For Spock" would turn into a "Search For Kirk" kind of story.

It's an interesting idea. The one overriding issue I have with it is that I harbor a strong suspicion Beyond's creative team is going to want to separate itself considerably from the plots and themes of Into Darkness.

 

[HIjol]

...sound fade-in to the rhythmic "ping" of the TOS Enterprise forward view screen, then further fade-in to the screen itself, star field evident.

Pan to ShatKirk, seemingly asleep in The Chair.

Turbolift opens, The Real McCoy bursts out,

"...Jim, what the hell?..."

ShatKirk emerges from unconsciousness, groggily touching himself, as it to check that he is real...

...and close with a lilting tune of a pan flute...high-pitched and sadly beautiful...

Roll TOS credits...

Hell. F-ing. Yeah.

 

[ManOnTheWave]

I predict shooting. Something will explode. Someone will have to make decision. There will be spaceships. I desperately hope for attractive people in their underwear.

 

[Malaika]

Speculation on the plot from Moviepilot

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3622684?lt_source=external,manual,manual,manual,manual

To Wrap It All Up

So essentially, I think Kirk is going to be the one to cause Elba's character to go all "end-of-the-world" bad guy due to side effects from Khan's blood. The Enterprise is on it's 5 year journey to go where no man has gone before, so we will most likely see a time jump from where the second film left off. And since we know Elba's character is part of a new alien race, it would make sense that the "twist" he speaks of is Kirk going crazy and attacking or destroying his people, causing Elba to retaliate by doing the same to Kirk's home - Earth. Let's not forget Spock and Bones' - they will be spending a lot of time together, after all, which leads me to believe that Kirk has to have gone rogue and that the two will be doing everything in their power to save him (even working with Khan and the other 72 enhanced to fix him) as well as fighting for their planet's survival. Finally, with the 50th anniversary approaching and Pegg stating he will be paying homage to the original series in this upcoming third installment, it makes sense that the "Search For Spock" would turn into a "Search For Kirk" kind of story.

People keep speculating about khan's blood making people evil (so the little girl is now bad too?) but I find the idea implausible even for someone like JJ who wrote lost (where the island 'monster' made people evil..but even there you discover that it didn't turn people evil, he replaced them and impersonated them..)
Magic blood is crazy alone as a concept but at least still plausible in the sense of having cells that are able to regenerate themselves and be able to 'heal', a bit like the concept of stem cells that modern medicine is studying. (And they had the sense to imply that it took some time for kirk to heal and wake up from the coma. Also I think in stid he was clinically dead but still had some small life signs) But blood cannot turn people evil or good..your personality is not in the blood cells...that's some fantasy concept that would be more fitting for disney and star wars than star trek.

 

[RAMA]

Speculation on the plot from Moviepilot

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3622684?lt_source=external,manual,manual,manual,manual

To Wrap It All Up

So essentially, I think Kirk is going to be the one to cause Elba's character to go all "end-of-the-world" bad guy due to side effects from Khan's blood. The Enterprise is on it's 5 year journey to go where no man has gone before, so we will most likely see a time jump from where the second film left off. And since we know Elba's character is part of a new alien race, it would make sense that the "twist" he speaks of is Kirk going crazy and attacking or destroying his people, causing Elba to retaliate by doing the same to Kirk's home - Earth. Let's not forget Spock and Bones' - they will be spending a lot of time together, after all, which leads me to believe that Kirk has to have gone rogue and that the two will be doing everything in their power to save him (even working with Khan and the other 72 enhanced to fix him) as well as fighting for their planet's survival. Finally, with the 50th anniversary approaching and Pegg stating he will be paying homage to the original series in this upcoming third installment, it makes sense that the "Search For Spock" would turn into a "Search For Kirk" kind of story.

People keep speculating about khan's blood making people evil (so the little girl is now bad too?) but I find the idea implausible even for someone like JJ who wrote lost (where the island 'monster' made people evil..but even there you discover that it didn't turn people evil, he replaced them and impersonated them..)
Magic blood is crazy alone as a concept but at least still plausible in the sense of having cells that are able to regenerate themselves and be able to 'heal', a bit like the concept of stem cells that modern medicine is studying. (And they had the sense to imply that it took some time for kirk to heal and wake up from the coma. Also I think in stid he was clinically dead but still had some small life signs) But blood cannot turn people evil or good..your personality is not in the blood cells...that's some fantasy concept that would be more fitting for disney and star wars than star trek.

Well I've pointed out often how biotech and nanotech are certainly two ways you could bring someone back from the dead more realistically than protomatter in prime trek. Considering these are both exponential technologies getting a lot of attention I don't find it remotely crazy as a concept, especially since I ascribe to a materialistically derived origin of the brain/consciousness/ and what people term "soul". I suspect most people balk at someone being brought back to life on the fact that it wouldn't be the same "soul", or a soul isn't recoverable, but I don't have that qualm, and as long as the body is somewhat intact or repaired, I think we will be bringing people back with nanotech and biotech within 30-40 years. I feel we will probably bypass all the biological hurdles and simply upload people into other bodies or technological hosts by that point.

As for blood being "evil"..well you could posit such a thing if it were engineered to do things we generally consider are evil, and somehow influence our heroes' brain. I'm not really in favor of such a plot myself.

Obviously no such thing exists now, so it may seem preposterous, but honestly this is not really one of the bigger issues raised with STID in my book.

RAMA

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Speculation on the plot from Moviepilot

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3622684?lt_source=external,manual,manual,manual,manual

To Wrap It All Up

So essentially, I think Kirk is going to be the one to cause Elba's character to go all "end-of-the-world" bad guy due to side effects from Khan's blood. The Enterprise is on it's 5 year journey to go where no man has gone before, so we will most likely see a time jump from where the second film left off. And since we know Elba's character is part of a new alien race, it would make sense that the "twist" he speaks of is Kirk going crazy and attacking or destroying his people, causing Elba to retaliate by doing the same to Kirk's home - Earth. Let's not forget Spock and Bones' - they will be spending a lot of time together, after all, which leads me to believe that Kirk has to have gone rogue and that the two will be doing everything in their power to save him (even working with Khan and the other 72 enhanced to fix him) as well as fighting for their planet's survival. Finally, with the 50th anniversary approaching and Pegg stating he will be paying homage to the original series in this upcoming third installment, it makes sense that the "Search For Spock" would turn into a "Search For Kirk" kind of story.

That's almost as ridiculous as the "Luke is Kylo Ren" theory for SW:TFA. Does no one have any imagination anymore? "I know! Plot twist: hero turns evil!"

 

[M'Sharak]

Speculation on the plot from Moviepilot

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3622684?lt_source=external,manual,manual,manual,manual

To Wrap It All Up

So essentially, I think Kirk is going to be the one to cause Elba's character to go all "end-of-the-world" bad guy due to side effects from Khan's blood. The Enterprise is on it's 5 year journey to go where no man has gone before, so we will most likely see a time jump from where the second film left off. And since we know Elba's character is part of a new alien race, it would make sense that the "twist" he speaks of is Kirk going crazy and attacking or destroying his people, causing Elba to retaliate by doing the same to Kirk's home - Earth. Let's not forget Spock and Bones' - they will be spending a lot of time together, after all, which leads me to believe that Kirk has to have gone rogue and that the two will be doing everything in their power to save him (even working with Khan and the other 72 enhanced to fix him) as well as fighting for their planet's survival. Finally, with the 50th anniversary approaching and Pegg stating he will be paying homage to the original series in this upcoming third installment, it makes sense that the "Search For Spock" would turn into a "Search For Kirk" kind of story.

People keep speculating about khan's blood making people evil (so the little girl is now bad too?) <snip>

Idris Elba's character is only the front for an evil mastermind remaining in the shadows. The little girl is the true adversary, but not to be revealed as such until the fourth installment.

 

[martok2112]

Speculation on the plot from Moviepilot

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3622684?lt_source=external,manual,manual,manual,manual

People keep speculating about khan's blood making people evil (so the little girl is now bad too?) <snip>

Idris Elba's character is only the front for an evil mastermind remaining in the shadows. The little girl is the true adversary, but not to be revealed as such until the fourth installment.

Which will be called "Star Trek Exorcist V Legion of The Heretic"

 

[Mudd]

It's really funny that Trek fans on the Internet will complain that nuTrek has dumbed down Star Trek, but then postulate "plausible" plot twists like "so maybe Khan's blood makes Kirk turn evil!"