Star Trek 4: The Next Generation?

[urbandefault]

As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason to ever reboot any of the spinoffs. They were spinoffs. TNG in itself was GR's reboot of his creation.

I want Trek at it's core, Kirk and Spock. If that means doing the Bond thing and recasting, fine. Maybe the more times they do it the closer they'll get to getting it right.

But, please. No TNG reboot. Ever.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I could see a reboot of the 24th Century as a TV show. Not just TNG, but drawing characters and concepts from DS9 and Voyager too. A multi POV and wide ranging epic in the mold of Game of Thrones.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I could see a reboot of the 24th Century as a TV show. Not just TNG, but drawing characters and concepts from DS9 and Voyager too. A multi POV and wide ranging epic in the mold of Game of Thrones.

That's a way better idea than rebooting either TNG, DS9, or VOY alone.

 

[Danlav05]

I could see a reboot of the 24th Century as a TV show. Not just TNG, but drawing characters and concepts from DS9 and Voyager too. A multi POV and wide ranging epic in the mold of Game of Thrones.

ooh I like this!

 

[Khan 2.0]

I could see a reboot of the 24th Century as a TV show. Not just TNG, but drawing characters and concepts from DS9 and Voyager too. A multi POV and wide ranging epic in the mold of Game of Thrones.

if they were to reboot TNG for ST4 then for sequels they could integrate some DS9/VOY characters/ships in cameos (well DS9 anyway )

 

[Nerys Myk]

I could see a reboot of the 24th Century as a TV show. Not just TNG, but drawing characters and concepts from DS9 and Voyager too. A multi POV and wide ranging epic in the mold of Game of Thrones.

if they were to reboot TNG for ST4 then for sequels they could integrate some DS9/VOY characters/ships in cameos (well DS9 anyway )

Nah, TV has wider canvas so you can have more characters. No cameos, full on co starring.

 

[eyeresist]

1. I don't think they'll think about a NuTNG until NuTrek gets tired.
2. Instead of going straight to a new cast, it would make sense to have QuintoSpock provide continuity into the new franchise.
3. An advantage of the new timeline is that NuTNG would have all the characters and locations of the Berman era to mix-and-match.

 

[Makarov]

^ With every new Bond actor - even the ones before Daniel Craig - comes a reboot. That's the way I look at it, anyway. All new Bonds are reboots - Casino Royale was not more of a reboot than any other new actor. (Indeed, if this was not the case, Bond would be about a hundred years old now, I should think.)

Moore, Lazenby, Dalton and Brosnan were just as rebootish as Craig was. The next one will also be.

I also think of them as reboots. But the thing with Craig's movies though is that they attempted to make Casino Royale an origin story and show Bond's progressing until he becomes the Bond everybody knows. In that sense they rebooted the character. They even held off the traditional bullet camera until later in Skyfall. None of the other movies really showed events that shaped Bond's character except maybe On her Majesty's Secret Service.

If Trek became more like bond then with every change of Kirk they might reset his relationship with Spock, do encapsulated stories with less character progression going on. It fits with Bond more than it would Trek imo..

 

[Shaka Zulu]

How would they future-ize the Enterprise-D anyway? Make everything float?

Here's some designs:

Transwarp Ship

Enterprise-C

 

[Nerys Myk]

I could see a reboot of the 24th Century as a TV show. Not just TNG, but drawing characters and concepts from DS9 and Voyager too. A multi POV and wide ranging epic in the mold of Game of Thrones.

ooh I like this!

Since I am a Trekkie, I must expand on my idea. I previously posted some ideas in a different thread, but I ain't looking for it. So from scratch:

The Setting: The Bajoran Sector (and beyond). Situated at the edge of "Known Space", the sector has been in turmoil for decades due an on going insurrection centered on Bajor, Once under the control of the Cardassian Union the Bajorans have finally thrown off the yoke of Cardassian rule. Seeking an alliance with the Federation they have turned over the running of an abandoned space station to Starfleet.

The space station gives the Federation a toehold in the region beyond Bajor, once blocked by the Cardassians. Three ships are assigned to the station, now called Deep Space Nine.

The USS Enterprise- A Galaxy class ship and the newest and most powerful craft in Starfleet. It's primary mission is establishing diplomatic relations with the new worlds beyond Bajor. It's staff includes a large diplomatic team.

The USS Voyager- An Intrepid class scout ship. It primary mission is science and exploration.

The USS Defiant- A Defiant class light cruiser. Its primary mission is defense of the station and the Bajor system. It serves as the flagship for the commander of DS9.

Characters

Commodore Benjamin Sisko- Commanding Officer of Deep Space Nine and the Bajor Sector. A veteran of the Cardassian Wars. His wife and son have accompanied him to DS9.

Captain Jean-Luc Picard- Captain of the USS Enterprise. A skilled commander and diplomat.

Captain Katheryn Janeway- Captain of the USS Voyager. A brilliant scientist who has transferred to the command division

Commander William Riker- Captain of the USS Defiant.

Colonel Kira Nerys- Bajoran liaison officer to Deep Space Nine. A former leader of the Bajoran resistance. Still wanted for terrorism in the Cardassian Union.

Ambassador Deanna Troi- Chief diplomatic officer for the Bajoran sector. Usually assigned to the Enterprise and holds the rank of Lt. Commander in the Starfleet Reserve.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I could see a reboot of the 24th Century as a TV show. Not just TNG, but drawing characters and concepts from DS9 and Voyager too. A multi POV and wide ranging epic in the mold of Game of Thrones.

ooh I like this!

Since I am a Trekkie, I must expand on my idea. I previously posted some ideas in a different thread, but I ain't looking for it. So from scratch:

The Setting: The Bajoran Sector (and beyond). Situated at the edge of "Known Space", the sector has been in turmoil for decades due an on going insurrection centered on Bajor, Once under the control of the Cardassian Union the Bajorans have finally thrown off the yoke of Cardassian rule. Seeking an alliance with the Federation they have turned over the running of an abandoned space station to Starfleet.

The space station gives the Federation a toehold in the region beyond Bajor, once blocked by the Cardassians. Three ships are assigned to the station, now called Deep Space Nine.

The USS Enterprise- A Galaxy class ship and the newest and most powerful craft in Starfleet. It's primary mission is establishing diplomatic relations with the new worlds beyond Bajor. It's staff includes a large diplomatic team.

The USS Voyager- An Intrepid class scout ship. It primary mission is science and exploration.

The USS Defiant- A Defiant class light cruiser. Its primary mission is defense of the station and the Bajor system. It serves as the flagship for the commander of DS9.

Characters

Commodore Benjamin Sisko- Commanding Officer of Deep Space Nine and the Bajor Sector. A veteran of the Cardassian Wars. His wife and son have accompanied him to DS9.

Captain Jean-Luc Picard- Captain of the USS Enterprise. A skilled commander and diplomat.

Captain Katheryn Janeway- Captain of the USS Voyager. A brilliant scientist who has transferred to the command division

Commander William Riker- Captain of the USS Defiant.

Colonel Kira Nerys- Bajoran liaison officer to Deep Space Nine. A former leader of the Bajoran resistance. Still wanted for terrorism in the Cardassian Union.

Ambassador Deanna Troi- Chief diplomatic officer for the Bajoran sector. Usually assigned to the Enterprise and holds the rank of Lt. Commander in the Starfleet Reserve.

Sweet!

 

[drt]

As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason to ever reboot any of the spinoffs. They were spinoffs. TNG in itself was GR's reboot of his creation.

It is pretty much Phase II with different character names. Picard being the older statesman that GR imagined Kirk eventually becoming. Data is Xon with the added change of having the opposite motivation of Spock (I sometimes wonder if they would have gone that way with Xon eventually in an attempt to make him more interesting). And of course, Riker and Troi have nearly word-for-word the same conversation as Decker and Ilia upon being reunited on Enterprise.

3. An advantage of the new timeline is that NuTNG would have all the characters and locations of the Berman era to mix-and-match.

I expect the next reboot to most likely be Kirk/Spock (since I think this is the version that has cemented itself the most pop-culturewise), but I wouldn't be surprised if they mixed in some of the more popular TNG-ENT characters here and there. Shoot, the androidish science-officer guy from Into Darkness could be turned into Data if they really wanted.

 

[BillJ]

...I don't think TNG translates well on the big screen.

I think this represents the biggest hurdle. Would a TNG reboot for the big screen really resemble TNG at all? If they were to reboot, it would probably fit better and be truer to the original on the small screen.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I'm now a fan of Deep Space Voyager: The Next Generation!

 

[Lord Garth]

...I don't think TNG translates well on the big screen.

I think this represents the biggest hurdle. Would a TNG reboot for the big screen really resemble TNG at all? If they were to reboot, it would probably fit better and be truer to the original on the small screen.

This is actually the way I see it going.

One good thing they did with Into Darkness (See? I can give credit where it's due) is that they've managed to penetrate into the foreign market better than they ever have before. Now Paramount will be able to fall back on the overseas box office if the domestic box office ever comes up short in the future. So this TOS reboot can keep going until they get tired of it or they decide to reboot it again.

As long as TOS is the theater, it's not going to go back to TV.

BUT what you've said elsewhere is right. Other series have been less and less successful. DS9, VOY, ENT. They've had lower and lower ratings. They're not Star Trek the mainstream audience is familiar with.

What else besides TOS is? That's where TNG comes in. Reboot TNG on TV and you have one Star Trek people are familiar with in the theater and you have the other Star Trek that people are familiar with on the television screen.

 

[eyeresist]

3. An advantage of the new timeline is that NuTNG would have all the characters and locations of the Berman era to mix-and-match.

I expect the next reboot to most likely be Kirk/Spock (since I think this is the version that has cemented itself the most pop-culturewise), but I wouldn't be surprised if they mixed in some of the more popular TNG-ENT characters here and there. Shoot, the androidish science-officer guy from Into Darkness could be turned into Data if they really wanted.

An android character could be a neat addition to NuTrek. It wouldn't have to be Data.

Reboot TNG on TV and you have one Star Trek people are familiar with in the theater and you have the other Star Trek that people are familiar with on the television screen.

Problem with running two eras simultaneously is that it reopens all the continuity headaches the reboot was supposed to avoid.

 

[Lord Garth]

I don't know if that's true. 100 years is a long time. How often do we talk about 1915 in our every day life?

During TNG itself, the only mention of the TOS movies was in "Unification" when Spock briefly mentions what happened in the "past" in TUC. Maybe "Relics". But the TOS movies and TNG were kept pretty separate.

 

[Set Harth]

If anything, Relics seemed to conflict with Generations.

 

[137th Gebirg]

An android character could be a neat addition to NuTrek. It wouldn't have to be Data.

Not an android, but close: Science Officer 0718 from STID.

 

[DeMilburn]

As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason to ever reboot any of the spinoffs. They were spinoffs. TNG in itself was GR's reboot of his creation.

I want Trek at it's core, Kirk and Spock. If that means doing the Bond thing and recasting, fine. Maybe the more times they do it the closer they'll get to getting it right.

But, please. No TNG reboot. Ever.

Joining this conversation late, but I agree with the above.

Plus to jump from OS to TNG after only 3 films would cry of desperation on the film makers part.