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New villain or old, saving Earth or saving planet x or saving the universe or exploration, I'm just up for an entertaining movie every few years with characters I've enjoyed since childhood.

They don't need to reinvent the wheel.

This. Just this.
 
New villain or old, saving Earth or saving planet x or saving the universe or exploration, I'm just up for an entertaining movie every few years with characters I've enjoyed since childhood.

They don't need to reinvent the wheel.

You know I agree with you Bill, but I don't think it is inappropriate to have a preference as to what kind of movie I would want to watch. Does it mean I will boycott the movie if it doesn't fit my preferences? No. But I think every one of us has something they would prefer to see in the new Star Trek movie.
 
New villain or old, saving Earth or saving planet x or saving the universe or exploration, I'm just up for an entertaining movie every few years with characters I've enjoyed since childhood.

They don't need to reinvent the wheel.

You know I agree with you Bill, but I don't think it is inappropriate to have a preference as to what kind of movie I would want to watch. Does it mean I will boycott the movie if it doesn't fit my preferences? No. But I think every one of us has something they would prefer to see in the new Star Trek movie.

That. Just that. :techman:
 
New villain or old, saving Earth or saving planet x or saving the universe or exploration, I'm just up for an entertaining movie every few years with characters I've enjoyed since childhood.

They don't need to reinvent the wheel.

You know I agree with you Bill, but I don't think it is inappropriate to have a preference as to what kind of movie I would want to watch. Does it mean I will boycott the movie if it doesn't fit my preferences? No. But I think every one of us has something they would prefer to see in the new Star Trek movie.

There's nothing wrong with having preferences. My lack of preference is a preference all its own! :techman:
 
I just hope the name of the movie isn't Star Tr3k. Star Tr3k: N3m3sis was bad enough. ;)
 
Another Starship Captain ... we all know what that means:

a) The other starship is being destroyed in the first five minutes of the movie
b) The other captain is going crazy and/or renegade
c) The other captain has been ordered to take over the Enterprise, because Kirk has violated orders once again

Just once I'd like to see another Federation ship kicking some asses alongside the Enterprise without being destroyed or anything. Or maybe even saving the Enterprise from whoever/whatever. Yes, we kind of had that in TUC ... I just remembered that. But anyway ...
 
Oh God, if they could just stop Kirk from being a vengeance-crazed insubordinate idiot, that would be a great step forward. At the moment, I'm not sure what NuSpock sees in him apart from OldSpock's prediction of friendship.
 
Oh God, if they could just stop Kirk from being a vengeance-crazed insubordinate idiot, that would be a great step forward. At the moment, I'm not sure what NuSpock sees in him apart from OldSpock's prediction of friendship.

Actually that's one thing STID did very well, recapturing the Kirk/Spock dynamic seen in "Arena" and "The Devil in the Dark" -- first Kirk reacts as a soldier and wants to destroy the enemy, then Spock argues for a more peaceful approach and Kirk initially dismisses his advice, but when the confrontation happens, Kirk chooses on his own initiative to do it Spock's way after all -- in this case, to seek Khan's surrender rather than executing him as Marcus ordered. So he was anything but vengeance-crazed. His initial urge for vengeance was tempered by his reason and morality, because he was willing to listen and learn. And that's what Spock sees in him. Both Kirks are fallible, capable of error and human folly, but smart and self-aware enough to recognize their mistakes and come through in the end.
 
Oh God, if they could just stop Kirk from being a vengeance-crazed insubordinate idiot, that would be a great step forward. At the moment, I'm not sure what NuSpock sees in him apart from OldSpock's prediction of friendship.
Actually that's one thing STID did very well, recapturing the Kirk/Spock dynamic seen in "Arena" and "The Devil in the Dark" -- first Kirk reacts as a soldier and wants to destroy the enemy, then Spock argues for a more peaceful approach and Kirk initially dismisses his advice, but when the confrontation happens, Kirk chooses on his own initiative to do it Spock's way after all -- in this case, to seek Khan's surrender rather than executing him as Marcus ordered. So he was anything but vengeance-crazed.

The scene that bugs me specifically is when they first capture Kahn. He has just saved all their lives, which should wake anyone up to him possibly not being the monster Marcus painted him as - so Kirk arrests him and then tries to beat up his prisoner. Ignoble behaviour by any reasonable definition.
(And then of course he gives Scott the order to stun Khan, even though Khan has been nothing but helpful.)
 
Oh God, if they could just stop Kirk from being a vengeance-crazed insubordinate idiot, that would be a great step forward. At the moment, I'm not sure what NuSpock sees in him apart from OldSpock's prediction of friendship.
Actually that's one thing STID did very well, recapturing the Kirk/Spock dynamic seen in "Arena" and "The Devil in the Dark" -- first Kirk reacts as a soldier and wants to destroy the enemy, then Spock argues for a more peaceful approach and Kirk initially dismisses his advice, but when the confrontation happens, Kirk chooses on his own initiative to do it Spock's way after all -- in this case, to seek Khan's surrender rather than executing him as Marcus ordered. So he was anything but vengeance-crazed.

The scene that bugs me specifically is when they first capture Kahn. He has just saved all their lives, which should wake anyone up to him possibly not being the monster Marcus painted him as - so Kirk arrests him and then tries to beat up his prisoner. Ignoble behaviour by any reasonable definition.
(And then of course he gives Scott the order to stun Khan, even though Khan has been nothing but helpful.)

Kirk watched Khan attack the Starfleet meeting where Pike was killed, so he knows Khan is a monster. As far as the few seconds of beating on Khan goes, it was an emotional release. Not a very mature one, but Kirk's not very mature yet in the movie. Spock probably lets it go on because he can't see a reason not to let Kirk do it under the circumstances.

As far as stunning Khan goes, as Kirk said, he believed they were essentially working for Khan, not vice versa. He needed to keep the upper hand, or it would've been Khan getting what he wanted then killing Kirk and Scotty, not just stunning them.
 
(And then of course he gives Scott the order to stun Khan, even though Khan has been nothing but helpful.)

Huh? Kirk was smart enough to take precautions against a known murderer and manipulator with superhuman abilities, and you think that makes him irrational? Hell, it's less reckless than the actions of his Prime counterpart, who gave Khan the run of the ship's computer banks before he'd even determined his identity.
 
C'mon guys, there are like 3,000 threads that contain arguments about STID.

Maybe we can talk about the next movie?

For example, when do you think they will release the first trailer - Christmas?
 
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