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Spoilers ST Strange New Worlds - Starships and Technology Season Three Discussion

There is some precedence in fan works for there being (II) subclasses or refits of existing ones, for whatever that might be worth.
It's canon, now, with PIC season 3 having the Constitution-III class (and by analogy confirming the refit as Constitution-II) and the Excelsior-II class. While there's a direct relationship between the Constitution-I and -II with at least one ship physically being rebuilt from the one class to the other, the Constitution-III and Excelsior-II are by all appearances totally unrelated to their predecessors. And that's not getting into the 32nd century ships that are, apparently, just Constitution-class and Intrepid-class, again. Probably Constitution-XII and Intrepid-VII, officially.
 
Battletech has done similar things over the years, with many capital ships getting at least one refit (block II variants), although the art problem between two of the technical manuals has arguably muddied some stuff over the years. :lol:Basically when the second one was written, they couldn't find the art resources used for the first one and had to design entirely new art from scratch. This annoyed some fans because some of the designs (like the Black Lion; the newer Clan model is bottom center) don't look like a logical variant of the original, although mechanically they're not that different. Others like the Cameron and Sovetskii Soyuz designs do seem more plausible as refits, at least to me.

Part of the problem is that, in-universe, it's not clear when the Block I designs were replaced by the Block IIs in production. The Exodus Fleet which eventually evolved into the Clans has been variously depicted as using mainly 2750 type ships in one book and mainly 3057 ships in the companion book, even though they're part of the same set and written long after the tech books were published. So it's not a transitional issue as occasionally happened with the art in some of the early Clan books. :D

It's generally more common with mechs or vehicles, as those are sometimes direct updates of older units (like the original Marauder II) and sometimes more modern descendants of vintage designs like the Enforcer III. Many Clan variants of older Star League mechs as referred to as IIC models, although in many cases these have had significant hardware upgrades with Clan technology. Most standard vehicles will keep the original name and simply have newer series numbers to reflect variants and the incorporation of more modern systems, or will have a letter designation for omni units that carry modular equipment.
 
Do my eyes deceive me or are there multiple Saladin Class ships in this shot?

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I think the designation Constitution-II had also shown up in both fan and licenced works prior to Picard Season 3

Edit: Yes, according to Memory-Alpha
The "Constitution-II" designation first appeared in print in the concurrently published USS Enterprise Officer's Manual (p. 147, by Geoffrey Mandel and Doug Drexler), and the Star Trek Spaceflight Chronology (p. 180, by Rick Sternbach) reference books from 1980. At that particular point in time the term was in competition with the concurrent, but equally unofficial Enterprise-class designation. (see: here) Both Mandel and Drexler incidentally, worked four decades later as production staff on the third season of Star Trek: Picard during which the designation became officially adopted by their superior on the show, Production Designer Dave Blass.

So it was probably Doug Drexler's (Or Geoffrey's) influence that brought in the numbered designations into Picard.

Or maybe Dave Blass was just a fan.
 
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Ships seen only in the opening credits:

1. Constitution class (some upside down)
2. ‘Nebula’ class
3. ‘Freighter’ class (some upside down)
4. ‘False Federation’ ship

Ships seen only in the episode:

1. Constitution class
2. Bellerophon class
3. Archer type
4. Kelcie Mae type
5. Crossfield class
6. Hiawatha type (round nacelles)
7. Malachowski class (round nacelles)
8. Nimitz class (round nacelles)
9. Shepard class (round nacelles)
10. ‘Larson’ class (Malachowski class with pylons bent upward with a single round nacelle)
11. Geronimo type shuttle/runabout
 
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