ST II vs ST III Battle Damage

[Allyn Gibson]

After most of the crew were on Excelsior except for Spock who got a Gagarin/Oberth. Bringing back fond memories from my youth!

Maybe?

Tom Sutton could not draw the Surak consistently. One time he draws is as the warp sled from TMP. He also draws it as an Excelsior a few times.

Todd McFarlane (yes, really!) draws it as a Miranda variant!

My deep dive into the Surak: http://www.allyngibson.com/?p=33734.

 

[FredH]

Maybe?

Tom Sutton could not draw the Surak consistently. One time he draws is as the warp sled from TMP. He also draws it as an Excelsior a few times.

Todd McFarlane (yes, really!) draws it as a Miranda variant!

My deep dive into the Surak: http://www.allyngibson.com/?p=33734.

Hey, I know: the Surak was an experimental, unique multi-mode science ship, transforming (Transformer-style) into wildly different configurations for different types of science surveys! Only someone of Spock’s scientific caliber could properly manage it! Yeah, that’s the ticket…

 

[DonIago]

Maybe the Surak was experiencing the same quantum anomalies that the Cerritos experienced in the season finale of Lower Decks.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The real U.S.S. Surak was the friends we made along the way

Spoiler: ummm

...who all die horribly.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Spoiler: ummm

...who all die horribly.

Spoiler: Yeah

Yeah, that was unfortunate...

 

[Ssosmcin]

The real U.S.S. Surak was the friends we made along the way

Spoiler: ummm

...who all die horribly.

At the time, it was drawn so poorly, it barely registered with me It felt so rushed, like "we have to get to the mindless Spock point." Tom Sutton was a competent artist, but it rarely looked like professional polished art when he did Star Trek with Ricardo Villagran .

Then the movie adaptation stuck to the script and it felt weird.

 

[somebuddyX]

Is the battle damage more noticeable so Rand can glare at it in III?

 

[The Knappos]

It’s plausible that, since there’s plating clearly indicating attempts at repair that there was at least one accident/incident during repair attempts which ended up exacerbating the damage.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

At the time, it was drawn so poorly, it barely registered with me It felt so rushed, like "we have to get to the mindless Spock point." Tom Sutton was a competent artist, but it rarely looked like professional polished art when he did Star Trek with Ricardo Villagran .

There was an article in the old Best of Trek volumes about the Star Trek comics, up through the Star Trek III adaptation, and Villagran's inking got mentioned as being very heavy. Look at the two chapters of Peter David's run late in the first series that Gordon Purcell drew and Villagran inked; Purcell proved himself to be a very good likeness artist, especially with the right inker (like Arne Starr or Terry Pallot), but Villagran just smothers and obliterates Purcell's pencils.

It does make me wonder what Sutton's art would have looked like with someone else inking.

 

[Firebird]

Is the battle damage more noticeable so Rand can glare at it in III?

For a one-off cameo that wasn’t even written in the script? Absolutely not.