Spoilers ST: Beyond - Surprising fact about Sulu
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He's married to actress Kerri Higuchi, but what has that got to do with anything? Acting is a job. It's a separate thing entirely from someone's personal life. Countless LGBT actors have played heterosexual characters and vice versa. The one has nothing to do with the other.
Have I said otherwise? Wait till I actually say something before presuming things about me. I was just curious is all and I thank you for your response, though I could have done without the lecture.
It's not you.
Christopher treats everyone like that.
Don't get so sensitive just because you're on the wrong side of history.
Christopher treats everyone like that.
Don't get so sensitive just because you're on the wrong side of history.
Well, I don't know him as well as you do.
Does anyone really know anyone? I read one of his novels once, and maybe you have too.
Who's novels?
Christopher treated you like a child.
You got pissy about being treated like a child by Christopher.
I said "Don't worry, Christopher treats every one like a child".
You said "It's nice that I know Christopher so well".
I countered by saying "I don't know Christopher, I've just read his novels".
Then you said "Who is the novelist?"
Connect the dots( or look at Christopher's signature).
You got pissy about being treated like a child by Christopher.
I said "Don't worry, Christopher treats every one like a child".
You said "It's nice that I know Christopher so well".
I countered by saying "I don't know Christopher, I've just read his novels".
Then you said "Who is the novelist?"
Connect the dots( or look at Christopher's signature).
As Trip would say: "Don't get your panties in a bunch."
Or was it "Keep your shirt on"?
Anyway, you get the meaning, I hope.
Besides, it would benefit you a great deal more to read "Francois Le Champi" since it's a well-known masterpiece by a famous author than for me to read something... that isn't.
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Knock it off, you two.
As far as Simon Pegg and Doug Jung, all I could find were third-hand accounts from John Cho.
But in the past I've seen and accepted gay characters in films. When I first saw Diamonds Are Forever[/]I I was able to tell that Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd were gay lovers. And we are talking about a film from the 70's! But Sulu and his brother/husband, sorry but they came across as brothers.
No, the audience's remembrance that Sulu's partner and daughter are in imminent danger from Krall's super weapon - and then we see them being evacuated, knowing that nowhere is safe - adds immeasurably to the tension of the climax.
And Sulu's fleeting moment of onscreen affection was that of a lover, not a brother.
I found that it didn't. It was just one of those moments were even if I hadn't seen it on screen I would've known that they were evacuated.
What moment? The hug? As I've said, I've seen brothers embrace like that before.
You are sounding very desperate for Sulu of the Kelvin timeline to be not gay.
Let it rest.
Pegg went on record in The Guardian to explain the decision, making it clear that it was the consensus of the filmmakers:
And of course it was Pegg who made the post explaining the retroactive timeline theory on his very own blog three days later. And both these statements were quoted all over the Internet. The only way you could possibly have failed to find them is if you didn't even look.
And I've explained why the filmmakers were forced to keep it ambiguous. That doesn't change the fact that we know what their intent was. I don't know why you're so determined to deny that.
I remember back about a decade ago, before LGBT activism and legal rights advancement really exploded in the U.S., when an embrace like the one Sulu and his husband conducted would most certainly have elicited derisive jokes or accusations of being gay.
At least with my peers and probably their parents, anyway.
Fascinating how much the social status quo has changed in just the past decade.
Edit: funny thing about that: I spent the bulk of my childhood in Indiana. As I recall, Indiana has a reputation of being "the Texas of the north", or something like that. And yes, I am frequently disgusted by Mike Pence.
At least with my peers and probably their parents, anyway.
Fascinating how much the social status quo has changed in just the past decade.
Edit: funny thing about that: I spent the bulk of my childhood in Indiana. As I recall, Indiana has a reputation of being "the Texas of the north", or something like that. And yes, I am frequently disgusted by Mike Pence.
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Agree! I remember hugging a good (male, straight) friend farewell (possibly forever) at an international airport in the late 80s and it felt like we'd crossed some unspoken barrier for the times. These days nobody would flinch.
OK, how can you be on the Trek Literature forum and not know who Christopher is?
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